Sellmansberger Orchestra Grand Ultimate is here - later on: Beatles chat

[MiBrassFS]

Side note related to music analysis…

There’s a YouTube thing that removes all melodic content from a Beatles song(s). It sounds just like a rhythmic analysis (pretty sure that was the intent…) one might do in music school. I posted it one time and received an absolutely visceral response from the wife of a friend I’ve known for 40+ years. He and I went to school together and he’s a really, really, well known professional jazz musician. She was not amused in the slightest. As a native NYer, she felt it was disrespectful to John, who many of them consider an adopted native NYer. “One of them.”

Everyone else commented on how interesting it was to hear the rhythmic components isolated.

People take their Beatles seriously.

[bloke]

Side note related to music analysis…

There’s a YouTube thing that removes all melodic content from a Beatles song(s)...
People take their Beatles seriously.

...as well as choosing to be triggered.
me...?? sometimes guilty of this myself. I need to do better.

[MiBrassFS]

He explained to her that it was a nerdy musician thing… no big deal in the end, but it was an interesting response and educational for me.

[MikeMason]

Any of these mouthpieces available? Cancelled orders,someone received and a bad fit? Curious to try. Playing a Laskey 32b. I do like it, but the FOMO…

[bloke]

Any of these mouthpieces available? Cancelled orders,someone received and a bad fit? Curious to try. Playing a Laskey 32b. I do like it, but the FOMO…

Everyone has paid...
I'll make another batch...and another...etc.

[iiipopes]

Side note related to music analysis…

There’s a YouTube thing that removes all melodic content from a Beatles song(s). It sounds just like a rhythmic analysis (pretty sure that was the intent…) one might do in music school. I posted it one time and received an absolutely visceral response from the wife of a friend I’ve known for 40+ years. He and I went to school together and he’s a really, really, well known professional jazz musician. She was not amused in the slightest. As a native NYer, she felt it was disrespectful to John, who many of them consider an adopted native NYer. “One of them.”

Everyone else commented on how interesting it was to hear the rhythmic components isolated.

People take their Beatles seriously.

Yes, including me. But with maturity comes the acknowledgements of how much of every track was studio-created, and some tracks, especially the later tracks, which simply cannot be replicated. Then the next stage in the analysis is synthesis, understanding from whence they were inspired, and what may be a good way to perform any particular song live, especially after these last decades of Paul on tour. Recently a friend of a friend invited me to a recording session where he was re-doing the song Honey Pie off the White Album. Even though George played a Fender Bass VI as the bass line on the original track, I reminded the engineer that Paul wrote this in Music Hall style, and that the authentic bass instrument would have actually been either a recording bell tuba or sousaphone, being the style was before amplification for double bass. He wasn't sure at first, but then called me back the next day to bring the souzy. Meanwhile, I was diligently transcribing the isolated bass track, much as you describe hearing the backing tracks without vocals in the opening post, and woodshedded. He called me back the next day and said bring the souzy along. So two days later I show up with both a bass guitar and the souzy. So we spent some time setting the souzy and microphone up, and he played into my headphones what he had to that point with piano and other rhythm as I played along "just to get a level." At the end, I asked him if he had turned on the souzy mic to record. He said he did. I said, "OK, then. There's your track." Yes. One take. Everybody who hears it comments on its musicality and authenticity. While others were taking more than one take to record some more tracks, I sat around and drank good beer, as my job was done.

[MiBrassFS]

People find their “church” in all sorts of places. To me, that’s a good thing.


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@bloke Any chance of making up something like an “OGU, JR” with a smaller 32.3 diameter rim?

[bloke]

People find their “church” in all sorts of places. To me, that’s a good thing.


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@bloke Any chance of making up something like an “OGU, JR” with a smaller 32.3 diameter rim?

If there was only one church, there would only be one set of gigs and only one tuba player playing them.

[bloke]

The first batch left here today to your final destinations. I decided to send some of them to people who had some other orders sitting here waiting to ship, so I could combine stuff into single boxes for them, one or two people seemed extremely eager so I went ahead and sent theirs..
After that, I just sort of went in alphabetical. I'm sure hoping to see the rest in a very few more days..

[bloke]

We would be really interested in feedback as these start arriving at your doorsteps. I think you may find that this is not some wide open so-called "free blowing" mouthpiece, but is an "easy blowing' mouthpiece that makes a nice sound without working very hard, yet (hopefully) doesn't put any limits on the dynamic range. I'm hoping it also generates a nice type of sound for you.
I also really hope to see the second batch sometime this week, even if it's towards the end of the week.

Thanks again so much for continuing to give me a shot as I dabble in this mouthpiece stuff.

[the elephant]

Mine is on the USPS truck, out for delivery, but I have a wound care appointment at the hospital, and then I have to drive into Jackson to Dillard's for new concert clothes. After lunch and arrival back in Third World, America, I will be practicing. I am playing Broughton on the Kurath using my OG OG*, and will trial the OGU at that time.

I'll give you some feedback later tonight.
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*"Original Gangster" Orchestra Grand

[the elephant]

Okay, after a quick 30 minutes before having to leave the house for the day, I am using the OG on my Kurath for the concerto, and it is a bit boomy for my tastes.

The new OGU just permanently replaced it (for this tuba). I have to try it on my Mirafone 186, Yamaha 826, and Holton 345 to see how it shakes out. On the F, the tone is more or less the same but with more focus and… um… a little smaller. This is a good thing in my case.

Technique is about the same, with the low register having an easier blow and a better tone, overall.

I do not think I will like it on the Yamaha, but I bet the Holton lights up with it. I think the 186 might like it, too.

The Yamaha likes huge mouthpieces, but the others (that I have built) like smaller ones. This one is not small at all, but it plays with the control of a smaller mouthpiece. The output is a bit less due to the throat size (a guess on my part), but that is an improvement from my point of view. Others may disagree with me, but luckily I agree with myself, at least, heh, heh…

Great work, Joe!

"I AM UNANIMOUS IN THAT!"

[MiBrassFS]

Ok, everyone, all together now…

[the elephant]

Another hour on the Kurath:

Yeah, this mouthpiece is a winner for me with this horn. Once the concerto is out of the way, I will work on the three other tubas with this piece. Should be a fun ride.

Me likey.