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Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:44 am
by gocsick
Does anyone know what size Schlipf mute would fit a Meinl Weston Model 20 with a 16.5" bell? It should be the same size for the old stovepipe style Miraphone 186 which also had a 16" bell.
I found these size charts, but don't know enough about the specs on the listed models to extrapolate
https://tubameister.com/wp-content/uplo ... Number.pdf
https://gottfried.dk/images/PDF%20Catal ... e-Mute.pdf
Re: Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:59 am
by arpthark
I see the Miraphone 186 listed at Nr. 5. You could always email Herr Schlipfinger and ask:
https://www.tuba-mute.com/?page_id=198
Re: Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:34 am
by gocsick
I am assuming, maybe erroneously, that that is for the modern 17.75" (450mm) bell 186. I should have brought the Horn to MRWTEC and had
@Lee Stofer fit it out, but I had the euphonium with me for a group recital and didn't feel like dragging extra stuff.
Re: Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:03 am
by arpthark
gocsick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:34 am
I am assuming, maybe erroneously, that that is for the modern 17.75" (450mm) bell 186. I should have brought the Horn to MRWTEC and had @Lee Stofer fit it out, but I had the euphonium with me for a group recital and didn't feel like dragging extra stuff.
I have a modern 186 BBb here. I can measure the bell throat for you, and you can measure the throat of your MW20, and we can see if they are similar?
I think the only difference (please correct me if I am wrong) between the vintage 186 and the modern 186 is just the amount of "pancake" to the bell. The throats are similar/same. Again, please correct me if that is not the case, folks in the know.
Re: Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:11 am
by The Brute Squad
@BuddyRogersMusic took over American distribution of Schlipf mutes a few years ago. Chris usually responds quickly to email/phone and should be able to answer your question.
Re: Schlipf mute fit for MW Model 20
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:04 am
by Lee Stofer
My guess would be that a #5 practice mute would fit the Melton model 20, but bell flare outer diameters and
bell throat diameters can differ quite a bit. Chris Hite with Buddy Rogers Music should have Schlipf mutes with
him at the Army Band TEW in late January, and the best way to accurately determine the right size is to fit it in
person.