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"Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:40 pm
by Heavy_Metal
https://www.ebay.com/itm/135486497993?m ... &recoPos=4

Both Cerveny and B&S would sell "stencil" tubas with others' names on them to get around Cold War import restrictions. We've run into Wunderlich before, in this context.

Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:24 pm
by arpthark
I think that's a pre-USA Wunderlich:

https://brasstacks.de/ce_photo/html/ima ... ./../sound

Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:58 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Could be. But, as far as I can tell, Siebenbrunn wound up in East Germany after the war. It is very close to Markneukirchen, which is fairly close to the German-Czech border, and not that far from Kraslice, where Cerveny is/was based.

ISTR that after the war, in what became East Germany, various small shops were folded into larger organizations that often were state-run. The name Wunderlich was used on some B&S stencils, and was possibly used on Cervenys too. This one doesn't look like a B&S at all.

Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:16 am
by Tom C
That green stuff near the thumb ring is a little off-putting to me. Still a cool looking horn though.

Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:50 am
by Tubajug
Tom C wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:16 am That green stuff near the thumb ring is a little off-putting to me. Still a cool looking horn though.
Looks like someone had a leather wrap around it.

Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:22 am
by MiBrassFS
Ugh.

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Re: "Wunderlich" fixer-upper (might be a Cerveny)

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:34 am
by TheBerlinerTuba
Wunderlich tubas were made in Markneukirchen, in their own workshop, and the models made pre WW2 were often fantastic instruments.
Although hardly known in comparison to Bohland&Fuchs or Cerveny, Wunderlich, when set up well, are some of the best out there.

This one on the other hand, is ready to retire...