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The mind (certainly MINE) is a dumb thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:48 pm
by bloke
I continued to stumble over this passage (playing through it on the gigantic B-flat tuba - and yes: in the tuba octave).

Finally, in un-clipped my pencil, reduced all the (for the lack of a better term) misspelled pitches to their most common enharmonic names, at which point (yeah...I'm dumb) I finally realized that it's nothing more than an awkwardly-spelled (in order to stay within the key of four sharps - though naturals could have been utilized, but - then again - I believe Bordogni was striving to teach his vocal students to read) C minor scale. :eyes:

I'm usually pretty good at recognizing such things on sight, but - well, obviously - not this time. :smilie6:

Being an old guitar player, I "get" C-minor, though...(but maybe not-so-much B-sharp-minor-on-a-B-flat-tuba-down-reading-in-string-bass-clef).

fwiw, this is Rochut #91 (whereas several of the subsequent etudes - even #120 - are a good bit easier - at least, for me...played with this instrument).
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Something else that I have found necessary with a gigantic tuba with a gigantic bore size (21.2mm) and rotary valves is that - unlike F tuba, E-flat tuba, euphonium, a smaller B-flat tuba, C tubas, and piston tubas with 3/4-inch bore (etc.) - I'm occasionally needing to sacrifice the best in-tune valve combination (ie. the "normal" ones - those found in the fronts of beginner band method books, etc.) for more easily-controlled legatos (ie. slurs) with not-the-best valve combinations...It's a bit reminiscent of the dancing hippos in the Disney classic, "Fantasia".

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Re: The mind (certainly MINE) is a dumb thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:53 pm
by arpthark
B# minor, everybody's favorite key!

I was doing a PhD in music theory and I don't think I ever even saw any piece or passage in B# minor. But of course, I was mostly studying Hindemith, so I didn't really see any sort of minor or major...

Re: The mind (certainly MINE) is a dumb thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:07 pm
by arpthark
Not helping is the fact that the initial interval in that passage is an A-double-sharp to G-sharp ascending diminished seventh. That would've thrown my Theory II kids for a loop!

Re: The mind (certainly MINE) is a dumb thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:42 pm
by catgrowlB
:smilie2:

Re: The mind (certainly MINE) is a dumb thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:43 pm
by bloke
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