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Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:38 pm
by Three Valves
In the 43 Studies version it is in ## but I remember seeing and having it in a b key signature. :huh:

If you know where it is, can you let me know where to acquire or PM me a .pdf?

I thought for sure it was in one of my collections. :tuba:

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:47 pm
by Three Valves
I wonder if it was in a Woofruff 24 or another volume I sold off? :huh:

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:45 pm
by J-B
Perhaps the following might assist Three Valves.

Etude number 5 in the “43 Bel Canto Studies” compiled and edited by Chester Roberts is in D major, and seems to match what you describe.

Number 6 in the well-know Joanne Rochut collection of the Bordogni “Melodious Etudes for Trombone, vol I” is the same vocalise and is in E-flat major. (For tuba, read down one 8ve.)

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:07 pm
by russiantuba
J-B wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:45 pm Perhaps the following might assist Three Valves.

Etude number 5 in the “43 Bel Canto Studies” compiled and edited by Chester Roberts is in D major, and seems to match what you describe.

Number 6 in the well-know Joanne Rochut collection of the Bordogni “Melodious Etudes for Trombone, vol I” is the same vocalise and is in E-flat major. (For tuba, read down one 8ve.)
I will check my version tomorrow of the Wes Jacobs edition—should be in the same key for tuba as the trombone Rochut edition.

Chester Roberts changed quite a bit from the originals. I never understood why

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:59 am
by J-B
russiantuba wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:07 pm I will check my version tomorrow of the Wes Jacobs edition—should be in the same key for tuba as the trombone Rochut edition.
Dr Green has identified the best source: the Wesley Jacobs edition "Guilio Marco Bordogni Complete Vocalises for Tuba." Encore Music Publishers, 2006.

Etude number 6, page 10.

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 11:31 am
by bloke
Were you ever a piano player? D & B-flat are in the same position in the clef when you switch to treble.

Re: Wanted: Bordogni 5 in alternate (band) key sig.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:11 pm
by Three Valves
Piano player?

I’m barely a tuba player! :laugh: