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For Sale: Yamaha Self Replica, Silver plated brass Kellyberg, Bach 22, generic 24AW, etc.

All prices are OBAO. I'll get some more pictures up in the next few days. Please email rather than PM if at all possible: bobstubahaus@gmail.com

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Yamaha, Jim Self (Replica, silver plated), Standard/American, 9.5/10, $60. I bought this new, tried it several times, just wasn't for me. Still has original box. Very light Insertion marks.
Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/s4DDLH9HEpQ6P4NU6
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Kelly, silver plated brass Kellyberg, Standard/American, 9.5/10, $80. I bought this new directly from Kelly, tried it several times, just wasn't for me. Very light Insertion marks. The finish on the silver plating has a slightly cloudy quality to it. I polished it a time or two and it didn't make any difference.
Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/s3vWnzaXuzYBYsGS8
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Bach, 22, Standard/American, Standard/American, 4/10, $20. Playable if you're not picky. Shank tip is showing raw brass, is slightly out of round and has a couple of small cracks. Rim has moderate pitting and a couple of deeper gouges just outside the contact area.
Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZLUZPgEhD6BbASb7
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[Sold] Besson, "13".
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Taylor Music/Universal/Unbranded, 24AW, Standard/American, 9.5/10, $25, only light insertion marks. Used once or twice. Rim contour appears very close to Bach design.
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Yamaha, 67C4, Standard/American, 5/10, $20. Shank slightly out of round, will true up before shipping. Moderate/heavy insertion wear on shank, no brass showing. Moderate/heavy shallow scratching on rim surface. Moderate pitting on rim surface. A couple of micro nicks on rim surface. Backup or glovebox mouthpiece -Not quite in paperweight territory, yet.
Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/a8pKBhJbVA6pKmUp6

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>>>> If at all possible, please email instead of PM: bobstubahaus@gmail.com

Thanks for looking.

I did some quick Google searching for the Besson 13 mouthpiece. It does seem to be a Trombone/Euphonium (or maybe baritone would be more accurate since UK bands in the past make an actual distinction...)

But, when you get a chance to upload pictures, I am curious to see what yours looks like.

PlayTheTuba wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:17 am I did some quick Google searching for the Besson 13 mouthpiece. It does seem to be a Trombone/Euphonium (or maybe baritone would be more accurate since UK bands in the past make an actual distinction...)

But, when you get a chance to upload pictures, I am curious to see what yours looks like.

It's possible that they shared or recycled model numbers, but I owned one that came with a Besson 3+1 Eb and it was definitely a small tuba mouthpiece.

@WakinAZ -- I sent you an email.

arpthark wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:49 am

PlayTheTuba wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:17 am I did some quick Google searching for the Besson 13 mouthpiece...

It's possible that they shared or recycled model numbers, but I owned one that came with a Besson 3+1 Eb and it was definitely a small tuba mouthpiece.

@WakinAZ -- I sent you an email.

REALLY!

Man, people and/or manufacturers like reusing/repurposing model names and numbers...

Seeing as I have the (super flat, added tubing so it's a Tuba in D) Low Pitch Salvation Army Eb and it has a Euph MEDIUM shank, NOT a small tuba (ie British/Large shank T-bone/Old American Eb tuba) shank...

I wondered what would be the actual size mouthpiece that would've been used on it... The large shank tenor T-bone mouthpiece I have seems to be too small outside of "high in the sky playing."

The (2 piece steel) Kelly X-SMALL mouthpiece seems to be the same size and depth that the old American Monster Eb's* would have came with when they were new. At least from various photos and online catalogs that I have seen.

*6/4, like the modern Wessex Tubby Eb, or how big the modern short one-piece bell King 2341 BBb's are, Eastman EBC 632/832 4/4 CC's* - for those who are not super into tubas like I am

Although, a Denis Wick 5 might be even smaller than the Kelly X-SMALL... I did try a colleagues Denis Wick 4 several years ago... Maybe that would've been the size of mouthpiece what would've been used with SA tuba was new... Although, even the Denis Wick small shank mouthpieces would have to be shaved down to sit at the correct insertion depth for accuracy sake...

Or look at actual Besson or Boosey and Hawks catalogs from the early 1900's. They might have a photo/diagram of the mouthpieces that was used...

Lots of ramblings, my bad.

Pics added for the Kellyberg. Blake, I emailed you back.

All: Yes, it's fun to discuss old tuba stuff, but let's keep the comments brief and on point. If arpthark thinks the Besson is a tuba piece, I would trust his judgment above mine.