I too used to own an ABB 481. I miss it and wish I’d never sold it! My understanding is that it was branded Amati but was actually made by Cerveny. For some reason these were marketed as Amati in the 1980’s. I bought mine at Tuba Exchange in North Carolina. Some years later Cerveny instruments ...

In a previous post, I was told that the Amati tuba I own is a model called ABB481, but when I looked into it, I wondered if it was ABB681.
If anyone knows of any information on the differences between each model or a website where I can find that information, could you please let me know?

thank ...

Thank you for posting.
I decided to close this post because I learned the following from everyone's information. I'll try to investigate again to see if I can gather more information.
I'm really thankful to you!

◯What I learned thanks to everyone :clap:
Model number: ABB481
Year of manufacture ...

LeMark wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 1:25 pm Here's my cerveny from the 60's

Thank you for your message with photos.
By the way, what is the model number and what is the serial number?

My (late '70, early '80) Cerveny 1660 has the same engraving as your 60's Cerveny

My Amati AFB-451 F tuba just has "Amati" engraved and Kraslice and the type number below it.
No idea how old that is


Thank you for providing this information.

My tuba has the same engraved as yours.

I found on ...

From what I understand cerveny serial numbers are pretty random and not that useful

I may have told you wrong for a date based on the engraving, after seeing thet catalog from the 70's with the SAME engraving

Maybe there was different engraving for different markets. This is the engraving for ...

Does anyone know the year of manufacture by serial number or have Amati and Cerveny catalogs from the 1990s?
Now that I know the model number, I would like to be able to clarify when it was made.
thank you.

Serial number:63566
Model: ABB481


I have a Cerveny 1660 (old part number Arion) with ...

Does anyone know the year of manufacture by serial number or have Amati and Cerveny catalogs from the 1990s?
Now that I know the model number, I would like to be able to clarify when it was made.
thank you.

Serial number:63566
Model: ABB481

the opera model is not a piggy. We've covered this before. Piggies are 835 bore, and the opera is 795. The opera is much closer to an arion. Piggies have a different valve circuit wrap, one shared with the 6/4 601.

I played an actual BBb piggy recently, and I wasn't impressed, but there haven't ...

Sister tuba in CC?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126452054130

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BQcAAOSw679mIsWE/s-l1600.jpg


Thank you for your reply. It's very similar to my tuba.

My instrument only has letters, but the tuba on eBay seems to have decorative engravings around the letters.Is it a ...

Heh. Just noticed you can see "Cerveny" engraved on some of those tubas in the pictures in that Amati catalog. The "Opera Model" (Piggy) BBb is also listed, separate from the Arion. It did exist!

Sorry to derail, carry on.


I have told this story before here. When I was a freshman in college ...

Heh. Just noticed you can see "Cerveny" engraved on some of those tubas in the pictures in that Amati catalog. The "Opera Model" (Piggy) BBb is also listed, separate from the Arion. It did exist!

Sorry to derail, carry on.


Thank you for the message.
Indeed, if you look at the catalog, there ...

I had a tuba pretty much exactly like that, in lacquer, purchased from Tuba Exchange in the early 1980’s. The model number is indeed ABB 681 and it is analogous to the Cerveny 681. I thought it was a great horn and I regret selling it.


Thank you for your reply and for providing the ...

The reason cerveny tubas look like miraphones is that at the end of WW2, the Czech craftsmen fled the communist rule of the east, took their tooling with them, and started miraphone in West Germany. At the time the cerveny model was known as the 68. It became the miraphone 86, and changed to the ...

My gosh that thing looks remarkably similar to an old Mirafone 185. How wide is the bell? Bore size? Very nice condition for an older horn.


Thank you for your reply. I looked at the image, and it certainly looks similar to Miraphone 185. I will share the results of measuring my instrument ...

Wonderful condition !!! :bugeyes: :thumbsup:

I believe I would have personally preferred string linkage that they put on those instruments prior to that type of linkage. If I owned one - and someone was willing to machine me some extra long ball cup screws and lock nuts, I'd probably be ...

Try this:
Amati Rotor 1970 Roster
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Thank you for providing us with this valuable catalog that is no longer available. I'm very surprised.

I looked at it and ...

I had a tuba pretty much exactly like that, in lacquer, purchased from Tuba Exchange in the early 1980’s. The model number is indeed ABB 681 and it is analogous to the Cerveny 681. I thought it was a great horn and I regret selling it.


Thank you for your reply and for providing the information ...

Very interesting tuba. It has the modern style of engraving that started it the early 90's, but the spatulas are in the style that ended when the engraving changed

Do you live in Europe? They might have held onto the older spatula design longer there

Yes, it's basically a cerveny. The only ...

Hello. If you have any information about the tuba I own, I would like to know.

I bought a used Amati rotary tuba 10 years ago.
There was no information regarding this instrument at the time of purchase, and even when I contacted Amati, I was unable to find out any further details.

In order to ...