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- Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:47 pm
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: About pitch issues on old instruments
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Re: About pitch issues on old instruments
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...and - if you find yourself tilting your head back to play the thing (of course!) shorten the removable neck-pipe.
Hi Bloke,
Thank you so much for the incredibly helpful information! I am truly grateful for the detailed diagram showing exactly where and ...
- Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:30 pm
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: About pitch issues on old instruments
- Replies: 13
- Views: 609
Re: About pitch issues on old instruments
Don't fret that you may be destroying an historic instrument--1949 isn't that. By all means, do the work needed and enjoy playing it without fingering gymnastics. And remember, to remove 5" of tubing, you need only 2 1/2" off the tuning slide or other such slides, so it isn't as daunting as it may ...
- Sun Feb 08, 2026 11:16 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: About pitch issues on old instruments
- Replies: 13
- Views: 609
Re: About pitch issues on old instruments
Hello Mary,
I see Helikons from this maker in my workshop quite often and I believe your leadpipe is far longer than when the instrument was new.
Also there are quite a few of them still out in the world so don’t feel too bad about modifying it.
Good luck and all the best,
Berliner Tuba
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- Sun Feb 08, 2026 10:54 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: About pitch issues on old instruments
- Replies: 13
- Views: 609
Re: About pitch issues on old instruments
Last night out in the shop - on a customer's old newish-looking (probably closeted for two decades, as it was unplayable) Chinese knockoff of a Miraphone model 84 BB-flat tuba, I was only able to get it to where it would tune up to A=442 (pushed in all the way) by the skin of the instrument's ...
- Sun Feb 08, 2026 8:41 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: About pitch issues on old instruments
- Replies: 13
- Views: 609
About pitch issues on old instruments
Good evening everyone,
my name is Mary and I recently joined this forum.
I would like to ask how you usually deal with instruments that play consistently flat.
I own an Ernst David helicon. As the workshop is said to have closed in 1945, the instrument is likely at least 80 years old.
It is a ...
my name is Mary and I recently joined this forum.
I would like to ask how you usually deal with instruments that play consistently flat.
I own an Ernst David helicon. As the workshop is said to have closed in 1945, the instrument is likely at least 80 years old.
It is a ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 4:45 pm
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
Mary,
thx for the reply and nice that you got a lot of feedback.
Don‘t worry. You have an Opera early 1960-ies. The S linkages and the valve rotors as pictured are THE very typical set-up of the Cerveny/Amati/Lignatone ones from this time. (my picture in my earlier post shows the later version ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 3:53 pm
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
The more I look at the pictures of this horn and compare it to various Cervenys, the more I'm convinced that it is some early version of an Opera: the geometry, relative sizes and positions of the slides, and the mechanism for the 5th valve. I just can't find an image of one with those 'S' rods on ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 8:15 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different modell?)
Dear Mary,
Congratulation for this nice instrument.
From an old Amati catalogue from the 1970-ies I have attached a picture of the #822 B Bass Opera from VF Cerneny. Looks very similar to your model. (body, bell ratio and postion, entry of mouthpiece into 5th valve etc).
Regarding dimensions ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 7:35 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
Late 1800s to early 1900s Bohemian rotary valves look a lot different than what’s posted.
I throw my vote behind 1960s Opera model BBb. I have a scan saved somewhere…
Hello arpthark,
Thank you very much for your reply.
It is interesting to consider that this instrument could possibly date ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 7:25 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different modell?)
Dear Mary,
Congratulation for this nice instrument.
From an old Amati catalogue from the 1970-ies I have attached a picture of the #822 B Bass Opera from VF Cerneny. Looks very similar to your model. (body, bell ratio and postion, entry of mouthpiece into 5th valve etc).
Regarding dimensions ...
- Thu Feb 05, 2026 7:07 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
My AI speculates that it's a "Kaiserbass" (mostly on the basis of the 5th valve). It suggests the date as 1895-1908. It's assuming that it's a BBb horn, based on its appearance and the five valves. It also remarks that "The ornate geometric engraving + rolled garland is consistent with top-tier ...
- Sun Feb 01, 2026 7:13 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Re: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
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- Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:20 am
- Forum: Music Chatter
- Topic: Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 707
Help identifying a vintage Červený 4+1 rotary tuba (Opera or different model?)
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask for your knowledge regarding this Cerveny tuba.
I recently won this instrument at an auction.
Based on its size and the 4+1 rotary valve configuration, it appears similar to the model often referred to as the OPERA (CBB-883-5Z).
However, when I compare it to the ...
I would like to ask for your knowledge regarding this Cerveny tuba.
I recently won this instrument at an auction.
Based on its size and the 4+1 rotary valve configuration, it appears similar to the model often referred to as the OPERA (CBB-883-5Z).
However, when I compare it to the ...
