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by Finetales
Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:35 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: basstrombasso
Replies: 121
Views: 10427

Re: basstrombasso

The California Olds (full sized - several models) bass trombones - specifically, that were being built right before they were shuttered - were amazing. There aren’t many of them, people don’t know about them, and so many people seem to be into the stuff that (I think) doesn’t sound very good (two cu ...
by Finetales
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:35 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: basstrombasso
Replies: 121
Views: 10427

Re: basstrombasso

I won’t berate them - because I’m not a bass trombonist, but I don’t hear a lot of complementary things about Bach bass trombones – including from some of those who own them. That's likely because a lot of Bach bass trombones out there are not good instruments. Every brand (even Yamaha) and era has ...
by Finetales
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:17 pm
Forum: Music Chatter
Topic: Very small F tuba
Replies: 63
Views: 5591

Re: Very small F tuba

Have you played a Bubbie 5? Can you comment on that a little? If you're not expecting it to sound like a tuba, can it be used as a musical instrument? Unfortunately I've only played the old 4-valve Bubbie (I think TE133 is the model, vs. TF135 of the Bubbie 5). I think it could absolutely be used ...
by Finetales
Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:38 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: basstrombasso
Replies: 121
Views: 10427

Re: basstrombasso

Lots of trombonists really dislike the springs in old Conns, but I like them. I can tune normally, and then pull in from 1st if I need a note to be slightly higher. It also saves my lips if I accidentally pull the slide in too fast (though that thankfully doesn't happen often).
by Finetales
Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:54 pm
Forum: Music Chatter
Topic: Very small F tuba
Replies: 63
Views: 5591

Re: Very small F tuba

The radiator-looking ZO travel tubas are nice players - much better than the Wessex tornisters in my experience. I played a CC that blew me away at NAMM. But they certainly don't sound like a trombone as much as the Wessex Bubbies (which I'm convinced you could use as a contrabass cornet).
by Finetales
Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:47 am
Forum: Off-Site Deals and Ads
Topic: King Bari/Euph
Replies: 4
Views: 314

Re: King Bari/Euph

I saw that. Love the big J bend in the 4th valve slide. To be precise, this is a model 1173 "Improved Model Baritone", with the standard 3-valve model being the 1172 and the front action versions being the 1170 and 1171. I don't care much for American baritones/euphs, but this one looks cool enough ...
by Finetales
Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:31 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: What to Build?
Replies: 12
Views: 514

Re: What to Build?

Do you have a tuba shaped cimbasso? If not you need one, desperately. I went with a 3 valve Eb so I could get a cheap valve set and still have low Bb and A (more of a bass trombone sub than something to play monster movie soundtracks). 🤘 .562 is a little small in hindsight, .59x or .62x would pr ...
by Finetales
Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:37 pm
Forum: Music Chatter
Topic: Question to the long-time Wessex owners
Replies: 20
Views: 2720

Re: Question to the long-time Wessex owners

The quality is good for the price, but the price keeps going up. This is the biggest issue with Wessex for me. A few years ago Wessex instruments were amazing deals, and you could live with some minor quality issues for the price you paid (especially for the oddball horns that had no other ...
by Finetales
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:52 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved
Replies: 28
Views: 1920

Re: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved

It would certainly be useful for tenor solo rep with low Cs, pit books, or any orchestral part that throws Cs and Bs in willy-nilly. (Lots of contemporary stuff of course, but also quite a bit from older composers. The 4th tenor part in Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder comes to mind...chock full of low Bs ...
by Finetales
Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Have any of you trombone people found this person's YouTube channel?
Replies: 5
Views: 337

Re: Have any of you trombone people found this person's YouTube channel?

This is great stuff! I was not familiar with Elisabeth Shafer but I'm glad I am now. Very well done, musical multitracks - no smothering in processing and auto-tune necessary. It's a shame these don't have more views.
by Finetales
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:55 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved
Replies: 28
Views: 1920

Re: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved

One of the reasons the Duo Gravis barks so much is because the valve tubing is .562, rather than oversized relative to the slide bore like pretty much every other bass out there. But it's also just a barky horn to begin with. I don't have a King bass trombone (I'm not a fan of dependent valves, and ...
by Finetales
Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:22 am
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved
Replies: 28
Views: 1920

Re: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved

It seems to me that – again – an orchestral player can get by pretty darn well with a 72H - or something like that - with a contraption as seen in the video shown in a previous post in this thread…the bonus being that a 72H sounds so damn good, as long as the player doesn’t get carried away with mou ...
by Finetales
Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:33 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved
Replies: 28
Views: 1920

Re: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved

You can also replace the F attachment tuning slide with an Eb slide, but this requires you to use 6th and 7th positions, which becomes less popular the younger other people get. I did this with a 70h, and it works. Low F is 6th, low E is 7th, Eb is trigger 1. Low C is trigger 5 (normal 6) and low B ...
by Finetales
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:39 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved
Replies: 28
Views: 1920

Re: Elkhart Conn bass trombone saved

I'm half-tempted to do that Bartok conversion to my own single-valve Elkhart 72H. I specify "single-valve" because I usually use my independent double-valve (Yamaha rotors) Elkhart 72H. I've been kicking around the idea of having the two combined into one modular instrument, making one of the bells ...
by Finetales
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:19 pm
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: Lead Pipe Modification
Replies: 2
Views: 279

Re: Lead Pipe Modification

It would be easier to swap the 88H receiver for a modern large shank and do the same to the 321 (via the receiver from a King 2280 - a common mod for the 321). I'd be very surprised if anyone still made a Remington receiver, let alone one that isn't part of a trombone leadpipe. Maybe an odd small ...
by Finetales
Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 pm
Forum: Music Chatter
Topic: I'm looking for ballpark appraisals of my dad's old instruments.
Replies: 32
Views: 2719

Re: I'm looking for ballpark appraisals of my dad's old instruments.

Funnily enough, the alto horn is the one I can inform about with the most authority. The examples of that model Conn I've seen on eBay have sold for around $150-300 - the one closest the one you posted (silver plated, finish wear) was an auction that ended at $152 and some change (just checked via ...
by Finetales
Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:44 pm
Forum: Wanted to Buy: Tubas, Euphoniums, Mouthpieces, and Accessories
Topic: WTB: "CONN-EUPHONIUM" mouthpiece (small shank)
Replies: 0
Views: 199

WTB: "CONN-EUPHONIUM" mouthpiece (small shank)

I have a French bass saxhorn in C that loves an antique small shank Conn Euphonium (literally marked just "CONN-EUPHONIUM") mouthpiece a friend owns, more than any of my small shank pieces. I'd like to get my own so I can return my friend's to him. If anyone has one lying around they don't want, I'd ...
by Finetales
Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:23 pm
Forum: Off-Site Deals and Ads
Topic: eBay (OH): $100 3v Besson
Replies: 5
Views: 281

Re: eBay (OH): $100 3v Besson

Yeah, the length of the valve slides seem to match Eb length to me (compared side-by-side with other Ebs). Much too long to be a euph I think.

As for F...well, I'd be surprised if Besson sold a 2-20 intermediate 3-valve F tuba, but I suppose weirder things have happened.
by Finetales
Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Forum: Off-Site Deals and Ads
Topic: eBay (OH): $100 3v Besson
Replies: 5
Views: 281

eBay (OH): $100 3v Besson

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Silver-Besson-F-Tuba-/304617513153?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 It's listed as an F tuba but I'm guessing it's an Eb. Extreme patina and missing a mouthpiece receiver, but looks complete otherwise. A Buy it Now for about $300 total after shipping...just $100 locally ...
by Finetales
Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:48 am
Forum: Repairs & Modifications
Topic: 3-Valve Compensating Modification Theory
Replies: 8
Views: 842

Re: 3-Valve Compensating Modification Theory

I understand: so skip the half step valve, and other ones are close enough to make do. 👍 Exactly. The D and C are close enough that it may be that the only note you would really need the trigger for is Db (if at all). You just have a couple of useless fingerings to skip, but more of the ones you ha ...