(NOT “b-tuba”, but) BB♮ Tuba 😳

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(NOT “b-tuba”, but) BB♮ Tuba 😳

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Meinl-Weston (Melton) model 5450
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Orchestra tuba players use B♮ tubas, because they play better in sharp keys.
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That's some real edge of your seat fun!
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With its own built in "playing stand"
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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And how does it play, dare I ask?
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I think this would market better as a Cb tuba…
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Doc wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:31 pm And how does it play, dare I ask?
Response is just about the same on the same FINGERINGS on the same PARTIALS (NOT on the same PITCHES..ie. it's NOT some magical "now low E is just as fast-responding as low F used to be" thing).

It pulls a few passages (ex: "low orchestral") over MUCH MORE to the first and second fingers (away from the third finger) and with more opportunities to more easily fine-tune more pitches (with the #1 slide). Der Walkürenritt, La fontana di Trevi al meriggio, etc...

This only required four six-inch-long hunks of tubing...two of which I already had, and two others that (as a friend had a pending order with Meinlschmidt) a kind friend added to their pending order for me (as I had used up all that I had of those sizes, on alterations of others' instruments, as 20.5mm bore is a pretty common size).
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I got to try a Thor a week or two ago, and man... It was the best tuba I’ve ever played. Very responsive and a killer low register. I was beyond impressed.
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likely: reconfigured from old 2155R w/smaller bore and mouthpipe... I suspect the bugle taper was also reconfigured for better intonation via that computer program to which everyone refers.
No tuba is perfect, but these are amazing, and - the more carefully assembled - the better.

The old 2155R - though horrid intonation characteristics - featured the same incredible low range response.
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LargeTuba wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:19 pm I got to try a Thor a week or two ago, and man... It was the best tuba I’ve ever played. Very responsive and a killer low register. I was beyond impressed.
How was the legendary "depth of sound"?
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I slightly temper the sonority of mine with a fairly deep cup mouthpiece.
I use my Sellmansberger Symphony cup and a tall rim - which adds 1/8 inch of cup depth.
With smaller mouthpieces, I can override aggressive bass trombonists...not that this is a good idea..,🙄
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kingrob76 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:47 pm I think this would market better as a Cb tuba…
Considering that this horn is made what it is by a dropped pitch, maybe CCb?
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GC wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:21 pm
kingrob76 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:47 pm I think this would market better as a Cb tuba…
Considering that this horn is made what it is by a dropped pitch, maybe CCb?
sure...
...though my understanding is that the "CCC - CC - C - c - c¹ - c²" octave designation system is actually supposed to change/refer to the next lower octave at each "b" and NOT at each "c"...so (assuming that's correct...??) the "CC" designation for tubas with 16'-long bugles is actually just as incorrect as is the "EE♭" designation.

That having been delved into, this is...

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That's my favorite topic! :tuba:
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Okay, CCCb tuba.

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GC wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:32 pm Okay, CCCb tuba
LOL...NO, the OTHER way... :laugh: :clap:

Hey...HERE's somethin' funny that was just sent to me (from way back when...)

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...so what does it stand for...??
KLAXON, of course! :eyes:

yeah...and those were (though heavy wool) pretty "cool" uniforms, because they could easily be converted to tails (white shirt/bow tie/white vest)...so one wouldn't look quite as nerdy as everyone else - up on stage at "all-state"...

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EDIT: FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I STUCK IT IN THERE, I UNDID THAT BB♮ EXTENSION, TODAY.

bloke "I may stick weird/theoretically-might-work/not-approved stuff into an old horn, but NOT into mySELF !!!"
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CCCb looks more impressiver. But it looks sort of commie . . .
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