Melhart 6/4 tuba

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:12 pm

Ok... what is it?

https://reverb.com/item/37450791-melhar ... -4-cc-tuba

bloke · Post by **bloke** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:50 pm

' looks like a private label next-gen BMB 6/4 Rusk/Holton-style 6/4 C, to me (yes, or no...??)

https://reverb.com/item/37389004-big-mouth-brass-j865sp

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:50 pm

Pretty much. Seems like a lot of money.

LargeTuba · Post by **LargeTuba** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:14 pm

Bmb Tuba is like half.

I don't understand the 5th in the 4th valve tubing. It must be a cost saving measure because I've never seen anyone say they wanted that.

bloke · Post by **bloke** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:26 pm

yeah...
You can forget 5-2-3 for low F♯...It's gotta be 2-4, and find something to pull.

MN_TimTuba · Post by **MN_TimTuba** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:30 pm

Well, it's pretty.
And, the info says it's "probably the best playing 6/4 tuba on the market today", so there's that.
Tim

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:35 pm

I'm still not clear if it's BBb or CC.

But really, I need to stop leering at all this 6/4 tuba obscenity. Not like this one was ever in contention, but ya know, we still like to look.

bloke · Post by **bloke** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 pm

bort2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:35 pm I'm still not clear if it's BBb or CC.

But really, I need to stop leering at all this 6/4 tuba obscenity. Not like this one was ever in contention, but ya know, we still like to look.

C

It sports the Rusk-style "hole" in the lower (yeah: and upper) part of the inner pair of bows.

jonesbrass · Post by **jonesbrass** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 pm

BMB copy . . . Right down to the bracing, ferrules, and dependent 5th valve.

The dependent valve is just like the stacked rotors in a bass trombone. You can’t utilize the 5th to lower the pitch until the 4th is engaged. It limits fingering possibilities, but creates less turbulence on the main airway and enables expansion in the bugle earlier, at least in theory.

They did get rid of the rubber band linkage on the 5th valve . . . Apparently it’s a $5000 upgrade. [emoji38]

GC · Post by GC » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:59 pm

Heading and product specs say CC tuba. Product description says BBb and CC. Tech specs says BBb.

Multiple personalities or pathetic proofreading?

Yorkboy · Post by **Yorkboy** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:16 pm

I doubt they (Melhart) made it. It's likely a BMB/Gemeinhardt-manufactured stencil (I can't see the engraving to be sure).

bloke · Post by **bloke** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:44 am

If BMB is/was Jinbao-manufactured (yes or no..??),
this, likely, is as well (yes, or no...??)

Is - or is there not - a Jinbao policy whereby if an entity doesn’t order enough of a model that they agree to make exclusively for that entity, they then are allowed to offer that model to other importers and vendors...(??)

Was there somewhat of a consensus that the B-flat version was a better instrument?

Years ago, I was personally astonished when I discovered that the rubber band system was “the” system, and that I was not being shown a prototype.

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:37 am

LargeTuba · Post by **LargeTuba** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:23 am

If Schiller (or one of the cheap Jinbao companies) makes one of these with a 5th in a normal spot, and its around $5,000... Count me in!

MN_TimTuba · Post by **MN_TimTuba** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:52 am

LargeTuba wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:23 am If Schiller (or one of the cheap Jinbao companies) makes one of these with a 5th in a normal spot, and its around $5,000... Count me in!

Hey, @Bloke mentioned on another thread that he has a couple of 6/4 Holton BBb 345's in various states of repair. You may want to check with him to see if he could add a 5th where you want it, work his magic, and get you an ostensibly higher quality fine-playing BAT near your price range.
Just a thought.
Tim

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:02 pm

Original link... pretty picture is gone, back to the placeholder ??? picture.

MN_TimTuba · Post by **MN_TimTuba** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:53 pm

Looks like this store in McAllen, TX has another proprietary line of tubas, the Adamson (son of Adams??!).
https://reverb.com/item/37297580-adamso ... ba-atu-600
With Reverb they are listed as a 5-star store and preferred seller with quick shipping.
Have any of you Texans ever been there?
Tim

Post by **LeMark** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:09 pm

Nope, (although I have been to South Padre a couple times) McAllen is way far south Texas, in fact it's as far away from Dallas as Chicago is from Kansas city.

MN_TimTuba · Post by **MN_TimTuba** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:26 pm

LeMark wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:09 pm Nope, (although I have been to South Padre a couple times) McAllen is way far south Texas, in fact it's as far away from Dallas as Chicago is from Kansas city.

So you'd probably have to switch horses a couple of times.
Tim

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:32 pm

MN_TimTuba wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:26 pm
LeMark wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:09 pm Nope, (although I have been to South Padre a couple times) McAllen is way far south Texas, in fact it's as far away from Dallas as Chicago is from Kansas city.
So you'd probably have to switch horses a couple of times.
Tim

That is funny. Loved it.

Ace

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