bloke keeps messing around with more mouthpiece cup shapes

[bloke]

Here's yet another that I may only offer in one-piece silver-plated brass.

I kept messing around with my Symphony, Orchestra Grand, and Imperial cup mouthpieces with my 32-inch tall Holton (identical bell and bows to vintage 4/4 York) BB-flat tuba.

This instrument is a little bit smaller than a King 2341 the Eastman knockoff, and the Eastman C versions, but it's really quite similar.

I came up with a roughly "Helleberg-deep" yet BOWL cup mouthpiece prototype (and heck no, it's NOT a "Bach 7" and it's also NOT a "PT-88") that works better than ANY of those mouthpieces listed above ON THAT PARTICULAR INSTRUMENT and FOR ME.

I'll probably do a "run" of these as well for selling.

The only other bowl cups in the "Sellmansberger" stuff are shallow bowls:
- Solo (stainless steel modular)
- Shallowberger (one-piece silver plated brass...EXTRA shallow, with a very small throat opening).

So this new bowl cup mouthpiece will be a REGULAR DEEP (not extra deep) cup mouthpiece and with - pretty much - a regular - throat that opens up to a large exit bore.

again: I LIKE it with my 19-inch bell .687" bore contrabass tuba.

I'm not "getting into" this until 2025, but - if there's interest, lemme know (not collecting money now, only soliciting interest).


It rocks-and-rolls with THIS tuba, in particular: PHAT POWERRRRR !!!




BIG sound, BROAD sound, a good bit of "fist" in the sound (when the player "gets on it"...and - again) with a medium large bore tuba.

I DON'T dislike how it sounds with my huge tuba...but - with that tuba - it's not my favorite mouthpiece...at least, not right now.

[tofu]

yeah I’d be interested - although I’d prefer stainless steel and a removable rim a la the old SS 2 piece - but I get the why for a 1 piece. Can I assume it will have a #2 rim which is what I use?

[bloke]

I used that tuba and that mouthpiece on some things I mentioned that I've played recently including American in Paris, the heavy bass line that comes in towards the end of Bolero, I used it on that Sonic video game concert (with a whole bunch of low, quite a bit of VERY loud, and some fast and some percussive stuff whereby everything happens precisely where it happens, and every "sound-event" requires a very strong "front"), and I just like what it does with that particular tuba (which - again - is in the appropriate overall size and bore of King/Eastman 4/4).

It's just fine with the really huge rotary tuba, but - again - not quite my favorite with it. Other people would probably pick it for other things, because we're all so different, and our instruments are all so different.

[iiipopes]

I am reminded of the junior partner of K&G mouthpieces: Gilbert Spiteri B.Eng (Hons) (Melit.), M.Sc (Loughborough), a degree in mechanical engineering, with the emphasis of applied studies in how mouthpieces work. He computer models the mouthpieces not only for feel, which is what the senior partner, Dennis Kurun Camilleri LLCM, FLCM, FTCL, LRSM, does, but for the two basic physics concepts that make mouthpieces work: 1) Bernoulli's principal, which is why an embouchure actually works, and 2) the transition through the throat and backbore to static wave theory, compressions and rarefactions, which is why a player and mouthpiece can induce the proper resonances we call pitch and tone in a tuba.

Have you considered hiring as a consultant or partner a person who has these same or similar qualifications and understandings to further develop your mouthpieces to take them to the next level of playability, tone, and presence?

[bloke]

nope.

[iiipopes]

nope.

You should. I gave up your mouthpiece in favor of a K&G because it plays so much better in all aspects.

[bloke]

Congrats!

[iiipopes]

Congrats!

Thanks.

[bloke]

(Maybe someday, someone will tell me where all that jazz came from.)

[arpthark]

I'd be interested. Looking for a good fit for the Piggy.

Waffling around a bit between Symphony, Orch Grand (with and without cup extenders), PT-50/88, and some other stuff. The 88 has about the kind of sound I like but it's too hard to steer and I don't like the rim as much as the blokepiece #2. I'd be interested in trying "large cup" with a smaller backbore, smaller ID (maybe something around 33mm instead of 33.5) and the #2 rim profile. Is that kinda what this one is?

[bloke]

I'd be interested. Looking for a good fit for the Piggy.

Waffling around a bit between Symphony, Orch Grand (with and without cup extenders), PT-50/88, and some other stuff. The 88 has about the kind of sound I like but it's too hard to steer and I don't like the rim as much as the blokepiece #2. I'd be interested in trying "large cup" with a smaller backbore, smaller ID (maybe something around 33mm instead of 33.5) and the #2 rim profile. Is that kinda what this one is?

You're just about right there.

[Pauvog1]

I'd probably order one, but would appreciate options for rim shapes (totally get it, if it's not that kind of project). Could a brass bottom be made to mate to the existing SS rims? Just a thought.