I have a new-to-me Besson 995 with the MW big valves. I’m using the stock springs and I’m slowly getting used to them. I have a set of Yamaha euph springs from the previous owner. I haven’t tried them yet. But from my Yamaha spring experiences on a 2165, I remember them to be soft but too bouncy.
Has anyone tried the Mead springs for tuba and are they still for sale? If still for sale…where? I would like something a bit softer but not bouncy.
Is there another alternative?
Mead Springs for tuba?
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Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
I have used 2 sets in my Besson 994, first the tuba specific ones (https://www.euphoniumstore.net/product= ... d-cc-tubas) but recently I switched to the originals (https://www.euphoniumstore.net/product= ... eb-f-tubas)
my valves are very smooth, the lighter ones perform fine and without bounce and no annoying sounds from the springs
I first used the orignals in a Besson 794 (non-comp version of the 994), these have shorter/lighter valves but since I am no longer using that instrument I switched the springs to the 994 as an experiment
I have no experience with the MW big valves, but I cannot imagine them being heavier then the looooong compensating valves in my 994, I would recommend going for the 'Originals'
my valves are very smooth, the lighter ones perform fine and without bounce and no annoying sounds from the springs
I first used the orignals in a Besson 794 (non-comp version of the 994), these have shorter/lighter valves but since I am no longer using that instrument I switched the springs to the 994 as an experiment
I have no experience with the MW big valves, but I cannot imagine them being heavier then the looooong compensating valves in my 994, I would recommend going for the 'Originals'
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Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
sidebars:
> Yamaha spring ENDS are dipped in plastic, which - after a few years - begins to peel off.
> When (most any) valve springs are not bent (ie. not even a little bit) and fit within any provided bottom cap inset, my piston valve instruments never suffer from valve noise (regardless of whether there is a plastic coating).
summary:
> bottom of spring diameter might be important, particularly if there's a bottom cap inset.
> springs should not be (not even slightly bent). It's really important for the spring tops and bottoms (at "rest") to be remarkably parallel.
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also:
Rubber appliances which are designed to install inside bottom valve caps: nasty
Piston valve springs last - just about - a person's (or two persons') lifetime(s) without significantly weakening (unless messed with or subject to odd forces).
> Yamaha spring ENDS are dipped in plastic, which - after a few years - begins to peel off.
> When (most any) valve springs are not bent (ie. not even a little bit) and fit within any provided bottom cap inset, my piston valve instruments never suffer from valve noise (regardless of whether there is a plastic coating).
summary:
> bottom of spring diameter might be important, particularly if there's a bottom cap inset.
> springs should not be (not even slightly bent). It's really important for the spring tops and bottoms (at "rest") to be remarkably parallel.
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also:
Rubber appliances which are designed to install inside bottom valve caps: nasty
Piston valve springs last - just about - a person's (or two persons') lifetime(s) without significantly weakening (unless messed with or subject to odd forces).
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
I use Yamaha springs in my piston tubas (albeit, both are the Nirschl-made small block, and one of them has MAW valves). They’re also in my Holton 345 and 350 blocks. They work just fine, but as Joe mentioned, I do keep an eye on them every couple months just to make sure nothing is peeling.
I haven’t found anything I like better than the Yamaha springs. In previous piston tubas, namely my Willson F, I immediately switched out the factory heavy springs.
Mead Springs - Never tried them, can’t comment. Sorry! Give the Yammie ones a shot. If they’re too bouncy, your local repair person probably has some other strengths to try out.
I haven’t found anything I like better than the Yamaha springs. In previous piston tubas, namely my Willson F, I immediately switched out the factory heavy springs.
Mead Springs - Never tried them, can’t comment. Sorry! Give the Yammie ones a shot. If they’re too bouncy, your local repair person probably has some other strengths to try out.
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Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
I use the Yamaha tuba springs too. Have for years based on Joe's recommendation, and I haven't had issues. I just keep an eye on them and keep the horns well maintained!
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PT-18p (MRP)
JP 274 MKII
For sale:
Giddings Baer CC Euro shank https://tubaforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=96137#p96137
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
I use the Mead Light in the Euphonium. Thinking about trying then in the old Holton Eb, currently have Yamaha in there now and Happy. Just like to fiddle with things.
As amateur as they come...I know just enough to be dangerous.
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