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I still have not outgrown my Couturier Curiosity.

But no great hurry either.

I especially would like to see the trombone and its slide.


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Bump.
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Was he an honest-to-goodness manufacturer or - considering his locale - was Conn making that stuff for him...(??)

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Other makes associated with A.E. Couturier are Holton, Lyon & Healy, and finally York. I want to say York has preponderance of association, but it has been a while since i poked round on. the interwebs for his history.

I like to point non-musicians at the Ghostbusters scene discussing how the tower got built when trying to explain Couturier to them...

"I guess they don't build them like they used to."
"They never built them like this..."
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Looking over his horn-u-copia entry, helped develop cornets for Holton (New Proportion) , then York (Wizard), started his own company in 1916, and in 1924 Lyon & Healy bought 'em and continued making stuff until 1929.
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Periodic reminder this is still a valid interest in mine of acquiring.
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nearly 21" bell...
36" tall
(literally) tuned at the factory

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bloke wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:08 pm nearly 21" bell...
36" tall
(literally) tuned at the factory

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My, what large upper bows, you have, grandmama!"

If i have to explain how come i am interested...
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And i am still kicking myself for not paying attention 4/5 summers ago when 2 trombones passed over ebay, and i didn't notice or think they were worth chacing until too late...
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humBell wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 pm I still have not outgrown my Couturier Curiosity.

But no great hurry either.

I especially would like to see the trombone and its slide.
Is that anything like Sartorial Styling?
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iiipopes wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:45 pm
humBell wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 pm I still have not outgrown my Couturier Curiosity.

But no great hurry either.

I especially would like to see the trombone and its slide.
Is that anything like Sartorial Styling?
But for brass players?

Good question.

I'll sleep on it...
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Bad computer day. Please delete. Please allow us to delete our own posts when we get fumble fingers on the odd day.
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Oops. Hit quote instead of reply. Please delete.
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humBell wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:24 pm
iiipopes wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:45 pm
humBell wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 pm I still have not outgrown my Couturier Curiosity.

But no great hurry either.

I especially would like to see the trombone and its slide.
Is that anything like Sartorial Styling?
But for brass players?

Good question.

I'll sleep on it...
Case in point: in high school, our marching band used the upright tall fake fur headdresses. A friend convinced our director to get floppy hats in the school colors to prevent, er, um, either wardrobe or instrument malfunctions, and one of the band mothers made them. When we graduated, we passed them down to the next players. Later, when I marched in Marching Mizzou, we had corp helmets that actually dented the sousaphones. I convinced the band director, again, to let us go to the bookstore and buy floppy caps in the matching black and gold.
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Oops. Bad computer day. Please delete duplicate post.
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Floppy Caps??

Not a beret??

I hate berets!!
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I ain’t afraid…

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humBell wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:24 am Other makes associated with A.E. Couturier are Holton, Lyon & Healy, and finally York. I want to say York has preponderance of association, but it has been a while since i poked round on. the interwebs for his history.

I like to point non-musicians at the Ghostbusters scene discussing how the tower got built when trying to explain Couturier to them...

"I guess they don't build them like they used to."
"They never built them like this..."
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When there's something strange
in your tuba neighborhood
who ya gonna call?
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humBell wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:23 am When there's something strange
in your tuba neighborhood
who ya gonna call?
Alexander!
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 776469214/

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I may try to track this down...

If i am going that way anyway.

Alas, i am not a facebooker (i have not been booked for facing?) which may be make it more difficult.

But they do exist, and usually can be identified at a glance due to the lack of parallel tubing in valve circuits.

Still would really like a trombone. Or an Eb for that matter.

Will come to you eventually. (Safe bet there aren't very many other options)
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Shoot, i am slow to notice when things change...
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Location: Mainly New England, ranging into NY on a regular basis, but i promised to pick up a tuba from the bay area a friend is holding for me (to make sure say hi when i'm around)
so anywhere generally in between is fair game.

Um... Budget... Yeah.

I guess i'd target $300 for a trombone/baritone (though far more motivated by a trombone, as i have found a baritone) but could be talked into higher. tubas... $650 for an Eb and $1k for a BBb. (and helicons definitely count) and these are basically functional (or close to it) but suffering the ravages of time with minimal dignity. Something in good condition, i could see enticing more from me...

And i would say it isn't quite like i have funds set aside for these, so i may be slow to jump (like-wise if i get a flood of offers, i may end up comparison shopping) until like a sailor on shore leave i go tuba crazy.

Er. Al that said, perhaps i shoulda treated this like the old style want-ads where i paid by the word.

That meet the cordial request of the rules?
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