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matt g wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:03 pm
Interesting!
I’m assuming it’ll get some TLC?
Yes! Going to get all the dents removed and the bell ironed out. I think the valves are not lined up correctly, which is very exciting because it plays so well.
When pasting a piston valve set onto a rotary instrument body, the body either has to be altered or something has to be done with all of the excess mouthpipe length.
The original Hirsbrunner HB2P (resulting from having had Walter Nirschl build them a York-like valveset for their 6/4 interpretation of the CSO York, and then looking for ways to get additional mileage out of that valveset investment) solved it by sticking an odd little slide – which was of no use – on the front of the bell. Later, there HB 21 solve the problem by the other method mentioned above: altering the body.
This tuba in this thread – as well as the MRP F tuba - solved it more simply with a sideways length-absorbing loop in the mouthpipe tube.
Cool horn, but yeah, in going back to look at the details on my larger monitor, I see no Miraphone-looking ferrules, braces, or other indications of it having come from Waldkraiburg. However, if it is really old (like from when they first went into business) all that stuff might have looked very different from their traditional house look.
I would still like to play it. Horns like this can be a lot of fun.
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That is a pretty interesting valve set. The porting especially. Most of the ports are at a slight angle to the axis of the valve set. The right side (in the front picture) got my attention how it comes up from the port (towards the camera). If you zoom in on that spot in the rear picture, it looks like that is all knuckle until it gets the the straight outer slide tubing. If that’s correct, I’ve never seen anything like that. Pretty custom!
I’d love to hear the history. If tubas could talk.
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From the Klaus Bjerre archives, this one was labeled as "1936 Holton-Miraphone BBb with 3 Holton-style short stroke pistons" (I have no idea what Miraphone has to do with it):
These both have different ferrules than your tuba, but the same as the Stofer Holton.
The ferrules on your tuba look sort of like a Rudy Meinl to me. I'll have to dig up an OLD photo of an OLD Miraphone 186 to see if it looks like your ferrules.
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:25 pm
From the Klaus Bjerre archives, this one was labeled as "1936 Holton-Miraphone BBb with 3 Holton-style short stroke pistons" (I have no idea what Miraphone has to do with it):
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:25 pm
From the Klaus Bjerre archives, this one was labeled as "1936 Holton-Miraphone BBb with 3 Holton-style short stroke pistons" (I have no idea what Miraphone has to do with it):
Miraphone bell
Aaaaand... There's the Kranz. Whoops! Thanks for the help!