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I’ve always liked these.
This is the model that Jeff Anderson used to make all those extraordinary recordings with the San Francisco Symphony.
He told me that the only reason he recently bought a 6/4 was simply to try something different for the sake of “something different”.
I’ve also seen a couple of other top drawer players – who don’t post in forums like this to say “look what I bought!” - recently pick up rotary PT6 tubas.
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Plus, the drive of a lifetime to go pick it up in person. 34 hours each way, for me!
Having done the Alcan and a number of connected roads several times now, I can wholeheartedly endorse this. It's an incredible way to spend a week or two. The problem is you'll start getting an itch to do it again....and again........and again.
bort2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Plus, the drive of a lifetime to go pick it up in person. 34 hours each way, for me!
Having done the Alcan and a number of connected roads several times now, I can wholeheartedly endorse this. It's an incredible way to spend a week or two. The problem is you'll start getting an itch to do it again....and again........and again.
I'm all in to do this drive.
My wife is not very interested. And my kids would never have it.
Brett,
I've always wanted to do this trip. Let me know when so I can schedule time off, you can pick me up on the way!
Tim 'fan of Northwoods road trips' Tuba
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bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:22 pm
If you take a big enough truck, it might fit inside one of the tires, and you can avoid paying duty.
I always just figured people would tell the border agents something like "I brought this with me from the US to Canada, and now I'm just driving it back home."
bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:22 pm
If you take a big enough truck, it might fit inside one of the tires, and you can avoid paying duty.
I always just figured people would tell the border agents something like "I brought this with me from the US to Canada, and now I'm just driving it back home."
yeah...me?
I'm ALWAYS heading into Boondocks, Canada with my top-level professional-grade tuba(s) to call moose...
bloke "mooses...??...meese...??...meeses...??
...OK THEN: ELKS "
Hey...At least, you don't have to drive around to the north side of some huge lake to get there...oh...wait...
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bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:42 pm
I'm ALWAYS heading into Boondocks, Canada with my top-level professional-grade tuba(s) to call moose...
Jeez, how much do the border agents really ask or want to know, anyway? Last time I went to Canada was (yikes) about 15 years ago, but the crossing agents (at Niagara Falls) were just like "Hi, are you smuggling drugs, people, or weapons? No? Enjoy your stay."
bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:42 pm
I'm ALWAYS heading into Boondocks, Canada with my top-level professional-grade tuba(s) to call moose...
Jeez, how much do the border agents really ask or want to know, anyway? Last time I went to Canada was (yikes) about 15 years ago, but the crossing agents (at Niagara Falls) were just like "Hi, are you smuggling drugs, people, or weapons? No? Enjoy your stay."
Musical instruments (from NTR countries) duty rates - into the USA from Canada - range from 0% to 6%, depending on the country of origin.
now...Those are made in Germany...and Germany had been buying fuel from Russia - rather than the USA...so I would assume 0% duty.
bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:42 pm
I'm ALWAYS heading into Boondocks, Canada with my top-level professional-grade tuba(s) to call moose...
Jeez, how much do the border agents really ask or want to know, anyway? Last time I went to Canada was (yikes) about 15 years ago, but the crossing agents (at Niagara Falls) were just like "Hi, are you smuggling drugs, people, or weapons? No? Enjoy your stay."
When I left Juneau and unwisely moved back east (I've since fixed my thinking errors there...) I left through the border north of Skagway. The border guard kept asking me how many guns I had. "None" was the answer. "You lived in Alaska for 7 years and don't have a gun in there?" "Yes." Finally let me go through. My dad is next in line. Clearly we are travelling together. First question to my dad: "How many guns does your son have?" "None!"
I hope the seller isn’t offended.
We’re having a little bit of fun, but I hope it’s clear that we all agree that this is a really fine model of tuba.
Again, the highest paid orchestral player in the US used one for decades and may well go back to using it again, and another very well paid one recently picked up one from another very well paid orchestral player, and had to show it to me because they were so excited that they had acquired it.
Further, we are keeping this post at the top of the list,
I don't see a better situation for a serious player to fall into than this one. Drive of a lifetime. Phenomenal horn at the end of it.
If I had a full time orchestra job, it would be very hard to convince me to play anything other than a PT6. I cannot be convinced that you lose enough (or any?) sound compared to a York copy that it matters. The intonation is far and away better. TO ME very ergonomic. Mine was mouthpiece sensitive enough that it made it more versatile - Majority of the time I used a Mike Finn H; when I needed that little extra on the bottom end, I used a PT50+. When I needed a little bit more than that, I used a PT50. It also responded well to a Bobo Solo in a quintet setting.
So. Yes. I'm sorry if this post was hijacked by the trip north. Which should be a selling point of acquiring this horn. And to be clear, I've never played THIS horn. But the PT6 as a model is awesome.
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bloke (Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:07 pm) • tofu (Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:46 pm)
My daughter needs 20+ more hours of driving in order to get her license and has been after me all summer to let her drive more often. Even the promise of finishing off the rest of her driving hours was not enough to entice to join me on a 66-hour roundtrip to get this horn. Bummer but someone will get a great horn and hopefully a great road trip!
bloke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:58 pm
I hope the seller isn’t offended.
We’re having a little bit of fun, but I hope it’s clear that we all agree that this is a really fine model of tuba.
Again, the highest paid orchestral player in the US used one for decades and may well go back to using it again, and another very well paid one recently picked up one from another very well paid orchestral player, and had to show it to me because they were so excited that they had acquired it.
Further, we are keeping this post at the top of the list,
Not offended! Free advertising!
These tubas speak for themselves. They are phenomenal and this one is an excellent example.
I understand living in the Canadian Tundra makes shipping a bit more of a hassle but it's doable. If not, come make the drive! Just watch out for the bison crossing the road
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I’ve never understood the mystery of how a rotary versus a piston system actually noticeably changes the resonance of an instrument that is otherwise the same, but I have personally always judged the piston version of this instrument to offer a type of resonance that is too covered, and a bit difficult to single out in an ensemble, whereas the rotary version offers more clarity.
To be clear, I’m not your buyer, but - were you even as close as four hours away, I would probably ask to bring my 5450 piston instrument with me and spend an hour or so doing an A/B. I could imagine finding just about equal characteristics in the plus columns of each model.
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