The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Projects, repair topics, and Frankentubas
Post Reply
User avatar
arpthark
Posts: 3976
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
Location: Southeastern Connecticut
Has thanked: 966 times
Been thanked: 1093 times
Contact:

The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Post by arpthark »

Finally getting around to cleaning up the inside of this tuba. Pretty pleased with these. This is the .750" bore variant, too. I wonder how many of these horns still exist?

Image


User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19412
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3870 times
Been thanked: 4135 times

Re: The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Post by bloke »

Those look good. Was the 3/4 inch bore model still called a 1240?
User avatar
arpthark
Posts: 3976
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:25 pm
Location: Southeastern Connecticut
Has thanked: 966 times
Been thanked: 1093 times
Contact:

Re: The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Post by arpthark »

bloke wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:34 pm Those look good. Was the 3/4 inch bore model still called a 1240?
I think so, but I wish I knew for certain. I can't find anything about this bore size in any HN White catalogs of that era that I've found online. It's the same bore as the "monster" rotary B-flats.
York-aholic
Posts: 1440
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:39 pm
Location: SoCal
Has thanked: 1570 times
Been thanked: 468 times

Re: The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Post by York-aholic »

@arpthark @bloke It looks to me like they were called the same thing regardless of bore.

Try page 59 here:

It talks about "King Symphony Model BBb Bass". In the specs (lower left) it lists the bore as .687 (bit fuzzy to see). Then at the bottom of that paragraph it says "Large Bore .750"

https://www.saxophone.org/museum/publications/id/80

In another post in Repairs you mentioned that the intonation isn't as good as the 689 bore horns. If we assume they used the same big parts for the 689 and 750 horns, the 689 horns have a .750 bore at the big end of the main slide. So with a 750 bore horn, things would have to be cylindrical from the valves through the main slide, or they'd have to have a slower taper through the dog leg and maybe smallest bow. Either way, the taper of the small parts of the bugle are different that the 687/9 bore instruments...
These users thanked the author York-aholic for the post (total 2):
arpthark (Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:44 pm) • Dents Be Gone! (Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:43 am)
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19412
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3870 times
Been thanked: 4135 times

Re: The original plating on the pistons of my 1933 King model 1240

Post by bloke »

King innate intonation is pretty good, but far from perfect. The 11/16" bore instruments are really easy to manipulate/lip, and I suspect that the 3/4" bore instruments are going to be a little bit more difficult, in that regard.(??)
Post Reply