Let’s play “is it American made?”
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bone-a-phone
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Their lower end and mid range tbones aren't made in the USA, but I think the high end ones are.
These are the people who got most of the Kanstul tooling. If that was sent somewhere else, it would be disappointing.
These are the people who got most of the Kanstul tooling. If that was sent somewhere else, it would be disappointing.
Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
From their website:
so probably not.The B.A.C. Artist Series instruments were.... designed by B.A.C. craftsmen, and produced for us by a partner facility overseas
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
No.
I have confirmation that BAC has no intention of using the tuba tooling purchased from Kanstul, so any tuba related stuff with their branding is coming from whatever factory makes their apprentice series, and the valve blocks for their higher end horns.
It's my understanding that the only things made in KC are the bells, crooks, and leadpipes, as well as trombone slides.
I have confirmation that BAC has no intention of using the tuba tooling purchased from Kanstul, so any tuba related stuff with their branding is coming from whatever factory makes their apprentice series, and the valve blocks for their higher end horns.
It's my understanding that the only things made in KC are the bells, crooks, and leadpipes, as well as trombone slides.
Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Looks like a cool horn, it being what it is. Priced below the Wessex stuff, too. Did anybody get a chance to play it?
I’m guessing this is based on the old BMB stuff? If I remember correctly BAC took them over too didn’t they?
Whatever the case, looks cool, but who’s going to buy it? Who’s it marketed to, being a BIG 4v BBb, it probably won’t see heavy use in the “professional” scene. It’s not cool enough for that.
I’m guessing this is based on the old BMB stuff? If I remember correctly BAC took them over too didn’t they?
Whatever the case, looks cool, but who’s going to buy it? Who’s it marketed to, being a BIG 4v BBb, it probably won’t see heavy use in the “professional” scene. It’s not cool enough for that.
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Pan-American Eb
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B&M CC
Willson 3200RZ-5
Holton 340
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Pan-American Eb
King Medium Eb
Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
They're not exclusively selling the old BMB tubas.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 2cd50fbc9n
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 2cd50fbc9n
Doug Black
Assistant Professor of Music, Alabama A&M University
Eastman Tuba Artist
Assistant Professor of Music, Alabama A&M University
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bloke
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Nickel slides are Chinese or European.
Brass slides are American or Japanese or Chinese-made-for-Japanese.
... so I'd have to guess Hawaiian.
Brass slides are American or Japanese or Chinese-made-for-Japanese.
... so I'd have to guess Hawaiian.
Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Unpopular opinion: the best Chinese made tubas are equal if not considerably better than anything currently made in America.
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
No idea from that angle, I'm not even sure that I even see a fifth valve. Without an independent fifth valve, there is no 523 valve combination, which is probably one of the most useful 5th valve combinations of all.
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Why did they get all that Kanstul stuff, and then do nothing with it?
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Re: Let’s play “is it American made?”
Didn't I watch someone (who worked for them, at the time) sell off most all of those leftover Kanstul tuba parts - and partially-built tubas, etc. - on the frankentuba fb page?
re: Kanstul parts/tools acquisition
Based on (what appears to me to be) that domestic company's primary emphasis, wouldn't they likely be mostly interested in tooling/molds for making trombone parts?
Were it that I decided to make myself out to be some sort of big deal, and claim to make the world's most amazing whatevers, I sure wouldn't pick tubas. I'd pick the easiest things to make: (duh) trombones.
re: Kanstul parts/tools acquisition
Based on (what appears to me to be) that domestic company's primary emphasis, wouldn't they likely be mostly interested in tooling/molds for making trombone parts?
Were it that I decided to make myself out to be some sort of big deal, and claim to make the world's most amazing whatevers, I sure wouldn't pick tubas. I'd pick the easiest things to make: (duh) trombones.