Interesting Schuster / Markneukirchen Eb on eBay/Turkey

[arpthark]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176259726208?m ... name=11021



Same as my Heinel/Schuster but with 3 valves instead of 4. Never thought I'd see another one like it:

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[Rick Denney]

The one on offer doesn't look as old as the one you linked, which appears to me to be at least a hundred years old, and likely even older to before WWI. But I could be totally misreading the clues.

Schüster is one of those mid-size manufacturers that was big enough to have a real factory (steam-powered, apparently) but not nearly as big as, say, Böland & Fuchs. They were in operation from the late 1800's to the 1940's when they were swallowed up by socialist consolidation and state central management.

This page shows a pic of the factory, and within it there are pictures inside the workshop from around the turn of the last century.

https://www.brasstacks.de/manufakturen.html

As usual, BerlinerTuba has a nice writeup about a frankentuba in F that was originally made by Schüster, with clues about the history.

Rick "not sure this one would be worth the trouble to restore" Denney

[bloke]

wow...
I guess (??) the owner lived in that mansion/villa...

[arpthark]

The one on offer doesn't look as old as the one you linked, which appears to me to be at least a hundred years old, and likely even older to before WWI. But I could be totally misreading the clues.

Schüster is one of those mid-size manufacturers that was big enough to have a real factory (steam-powered, apparently) but not nearly as big as, say, Böland & Fuchs. They were in operation from the late 1800's to the 1940's when they were swallowed up by socialist consolidation and state central management.

This page shows a pic of the factory, and within it there are pictures inside the workshop from around the turn of the last century.

https://www.brasstacks.de/manufakturen.html

As usual, BerlinerTuba has a nice writeup about a frankentuba in F that was originally made by Schüster, with clues about the history.

Rick "not sure this one would be worth the trouble to restore" Denney

Hmm, what are you seeing that's different? The only real difference between mine and the eBay one that I am seeing is that mine has a keel and ball, while the one on offer just has a keel. (unfortunately, despite it being a very small tuba and me being a short guy, due to the ball/keel and high mouthpipe placement, it still hits me about squarely in the nose when I put it on a chair.) Oh, and I guess the thumb ring and mouthpipe angle are both a bit different. edit: Braces are also different, my bad.

But everything else, between the teardrop-shaped paddles, hexagonal clockspring barrels, seems to match up, to my eye.

arp "could probably bear a main tuning slide trigger" thark

[C J]

wow...
I guess (??) the owner lived in that mansion/villa...

You can feel like the owner of Schüster. The villa in front of the factory is indeed the Villa Schüster.

It is converted in a multi appartments house. The owner of the top floor does sometimes rent his appartment out.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/de/schuster-villa.nl.html

[Rick Denney]

Blake, I was thinking of the applied shield logo instead of it being stamped. And also the small bell (relative to the body).

Both the ball and the figured keel look old to me.

Rick “just a gut reaction” Denney

[arpthark]

Blake, I was thinking of the applied shield logo instead of it being stamped. And also the small bell (relative to the body).

Both the ball and the figured keel look old to me.

Rick “just a gut reaction” Denney

The longer I looked at them, the more differences I saw, so I'm also going with your gut on this one.

Mine is a fun horn, but might be something that I don't elect to play with others until I really get a handle on the tuning issues.