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Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:55 am
by bloke
Three Valves wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:48 am Well, the bass isn't playing so yes, I'm ignoring it!! :smilie2:
That wrong horn harmony is so funky, that it sounds right.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:24 pm
by LibraryMark
When I need to count seconds, I just sing to myself The Stars and Stripes Forever. Sometimes when I am awake in bed at night I will look at the clock and start the tune when the minute changes, just to see how close I can get. I can count to 60 and the next minute shows on the clock, usually within a second or two. I don't think that I have any special ability, it's just that 120bpm seems to lock in when I think of that tune. Must have something to do with having played it 40 million times.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:25 pm
by BopEuph
bloke wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:09 am I would like to know who the bass player was for the south Texas one-hit-wonder band, Archie Bell and the Drells (a band that would have gone places, were he not drafted).
Looked it up, and it was apparently a bassist by the name of Ronnie Baker.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:27 pm
by bloke
BopEuph wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:25 pm
bloke wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:09 am I would like to know who the bass player was for the south Texas one-hit-wonder band, Archie Bell and the Drells (a band that would have gone places, were he not drafted).
Looked it up, and it was apparently a bassist by the name of Ronnie Baker.
Thank-you!

That tune hit #1 on BOTH R&B AND Pop charts (Billboard in the Spring of 1968), when Private Bell had just completed basic training at Fort Polk.
He told everyone in his platoon that it was him...They didn't believe him, and told him he was full of $h!t.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:50 am
by Three Valves
I was sitting in my back yard the other day and heard dueling woodpeckers.

I kept saying to myself "A natural" "A flat" etc as their pecking went on and on....

Could it be I have perfect pitch as well as World Class Sound?? :red:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:20 am
by bloke
Even “no-hitters“ don’t require that all the pitches be perfect.

The fact that there are several tuning systems utilized within western music - yes, sometimes down the street from other places (and - sadly - sometimes in the *same room at the same time) causes me to tend to call bull$h!t on the “perfect pitch“ thing.
I can identify heard pitches by name, as can scads of other people. I want to be shown people who can identify them also by precisely how many hundredths (or why not thousandths?) of a semitone they are tuned from A=440 (ref: equal temperament), and I want to see them demonstrate doing it. Additionally - as it is claimed by many that people are born with this ability - and it cannot be learned, I want to see the 2/3/4-year-olds who can raise their hands - when someone in front of them uses an instrument to play random arrays of frequencies - every time a particular pitch - tuned to a particular hundredth of a semitone - is played
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*example: a prominent solo stretched-tuned piano out in front, with a trombone section (in the back) - listening to each other, but not to the solo instrument - tuning the thirds of their chords to sound “pretty“, yet 1, 2, or even 3 tenths of a semitone out-of-tune with the piano.

bloke “Human learning is via approximation, which is how we can recognize each other after not seeing each other for several decades.”

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:40 am
by Three Valves
Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'm full of Shirt?? :huh:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:32 am
by Mary Ann
Three Valves wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:38 pm Besides, when one has World Class Sound, who needs pitch and time?? :red:
That poor kid. I don't know what became of him....but I always considered that maybe he did have a wonderful sound, and was just too naive to know to keep his mouth shut in this venue.

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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:43 am
by bloke
Mary Ann wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:32 am
Three Valves wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:38 pm Besides, when one has World Class Sound, who needs pitch and time?? :red:
That poor kid. I don't know what became of him....but I always considered that maybe he did have a wonderful sound, and was just too naive to know to keep his mouth shut in this venue.


I always assumed them to be a troll...(??)

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:29 pm
by iiipopes
Three Valves wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:40 am Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'm full of Shirt?? :huh:
Time to give the true meaning of a phrase, of which was lost in translation when it came across the pond from ole' Blighty: "Stuff shirt." It is not "stuffed shirt." It is not a euphemism for being full of anything else, literally or colloquially. It has to do with an aspect of mens' clothing and the relative rank of barristers (oversimplified, the British lawyers who try cases, and until recently wore the wigs and robes, as opposed to solicitors, those lawyers who meet clients and draft documents). "Stuff" is the archaic common name for cotton. All regular barristers wear the usual white cotton, or stuff, shirts with the hard starched collars, etc. Senior barristers who have achieved the honorary standing of "Queen's Counsel" (or King, depending on the monarch reigning at the moment), had the privilege of wearing silk shirts and carrying their robes and wigs in a silk bag instead of an ordinary bag. Hence, the correct phrase is, "He is nothing but a stuff shirt," which refers condescendingly to a person who conducts himself or pretends to be above his real class, stature, position, or experience. The barrister I was an intern for in 1985 never took silk, the phrase for accepting this senior designation, although I did accompany him to argue a case in the House of Lords and we were escorted for lunch in the Lords dining hall. But that's an anecdote for another day.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:57 pm
by Three Valves
Let’s move along to empty suit!! :popcorn:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:29 am
by P@rick
I don't do both. I don't warm up coffee nor do I practice BPM at the microwave. I'm not surprised about this BPM practice method and all the replies on this, but I'm surprised about the "warming up coffee". I would consider this to be a very rare thing, but giving "warming up coffee" as an example of what you would do with a microwave and seeing all the replies without anyone questioning it, makes me wondering if this might be a country or region thing. At least I never heard of it over here in the Netherlands. Feel free to shed some light on this my fellows on both sides of the pond...

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:59 am
by Three Valves
P@rick wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:29 am ... but giving "warming up coffee" as an example of what you would do with a microwave and seeing all the replies without anyone questioning it, makes me wondering if this might be a country or region thing.
I would sooner drink wretched instant coffee than warm brewed coffee in a microwave. The only way to warm brewed coffee is with more, warmer brewed coffee!!

Thank you for noticing. :coffee:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:00 am
by bloke
1. Coffee maker (whatever type, anything from "French press", to percolator, to keurig, to typical coffee-maker) makes coffee in the morning.
2. People in the house drink all they want.
3. They turn off the coffee maker, it shuts itself off, or whatever, and the coffee remaining assumes room temperature.
4. Perhaps by 10:30 A.M., someone is ready for more coffee, so they pour a cup and heat it up in their microwave oven.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:08 am
by Three Valves
bloke wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:00 am 4. Perhaps by 10:30 A.M., someone is ready for more coffee, so they pour a cup and heat it up in their microwave oven.
At 10:32am we surround the heretic and stone them!!

:slap:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:57 pm
by iiipopes
bloke wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:00 am 1. Coffee maker (whatever type, anything from "French press", to percolator, to usually keurig, to or typical coffee-maker) makes coffee in the morning.
2. People in the house office drink all they want. They may make more, depending on how the day goes.
3. They turn off the coffee maker, it shuts itself off, or whatever, and the coffee remaining assumes room temperature.
4. Perhaps by 10:30 A.M., or any time from lunch onward, someone is ready for more coffee, so they pour a cup and heat it up in their break room microwave oven.
That's how it is for me.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:58 pm
by bort2.0
BopEuph wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:17 am
...stuff...
OMG, I never knew until JUST NOW that YOU are the tuba guy from the Jackson 5 video from a few years ago. HA! Awesome!



Which also reminds me of this similar video:


Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 pm
by BopEuph
Ha! That video got me interested in doing something similar to his. That dude's transcription was NASTY! And Bass Player Magazine once said it would probably be impossible to get close to Stevie's feel on bass. Ibanda found a way.

I'd been waist deep in learning funky basslines, and decided to try one on tuba. This took a lot of practice, since at the time I was still fairly green on tuba, and had to really work those low A-flats. Didn't think when I picked up tuba that mid-low range would kick my butt so bad.

I really should do a few more long ones like that, the most recent was doing Flashlight about a year ago, and George Clinton gave me a :thumbsup: in the comments on Instagram. I was on cloud nine for the rest of the week.

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:38 am
by P@rick
bloke wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:00 am 1. Coffee maker (whatever type, anything from "French press", to percolator, to keurig, to typical coffee-maker) makes coffee in the morning.
2. People in the house drink all they want.
3. They turn off the coffee maker, it shuts itself off, or whatever, and the coffee remaining assumes room temperature.
4. Perhaps by 10:30 A.M., someone is ready for more coffee, so they pour a cup and heat it up in their microwave oven.
I'm the type of coffee drinker who brews per cup, but I'm also the only coffee drinker at home and maybe also too picky about it :red:

Re: P̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶P̶i̶t̶c̶h̶ Perfect Time

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:26 am
by bloke
I’ve had bad coffee, but reheated good coffee - when it’s only been sitting for an hour - almost always tastes good to me.

That having been said, I don’t spend a whole bunch on cans of coffee…

If I spent $8/gallon on gasoline, I might be more picky about my gasoline too.