Re: Ouch
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 12:39 pm
Not anymore!
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Re: Ouch
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:01 pm
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:30 am
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:33 am
Dumbassery is serious and highly contagious.
Better not leave the house!!
Better not leave the house!!
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 am
This is not how the story went. I have a detailed history of this horn from Chuck Nickels of Wessex. This horn actually has an interesting story, maybe I'll tell it once the rumors and jokes die down.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:44 am
Indeed, sir! It has been proven that quarantine is required to flatten the curve. Or a good 2x4.Three Valves wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:33 am Dumbassery is serious and highly contagious.
Better not leave the house!!
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:49 am
Ooooo! An Insider! I can't wait!KingTuba1241X wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 amThis is not how the story went. I have a detailed history of this horn from Chuck Nickels of Wessex. This horn actually has an interesting story, maybe I'll tell it once the rumors and jokes die down.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:11 am
Because of gnarly bare feet in the photo, no retraction is presented. All criticism and comedy shall stand on that basis alone. The disrespectful, inconsiderate, unmannerly, and disgusting heathens posting bare man feet in sale ads should be publicly chastised, ridiculed, and humiliated by serving a fortnight in the stocks and pillory, then summarily tarred and feathered on the town square.KingTuba1241X wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 am This is not how the story went. I have a detailed history of this horn from Chuck Nickels of Wessex. This horn actually has an interesting story, maybe I'll tell it once the rumors and jokes die down.
Proceed with the instrument's fair history, sir.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:27 am
I'd guess that $4K exceeds the new-in-the-plastic-wrap importer's cost...(??)
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 am
Doc wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 10:11 amBecause of gnarly bare feet in the photo, no retraction is presented. All criticism and comedy shall stand on that basis alone. The disrespectful, inconsiderate, unmannerly, and disgusting heathens posting bare man feet in sale ads should be publicly chastised, ridiculed, and humiliated by serving a fortnight in the stocks and pillory, then summarily tarred and feathered on the town square.KingTuba1241X wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 am This is not how the story went. I have a detailed history of this horn from Chuck Nickels of Wessex. This horn actually has an interesting story, maybe I'll tell it once the rumors and jokes die down.
Proceed with the instrument's fair history, sir.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:47 am
I'm pretty sure I have permission to post this, as it's not for sale any longer and the story is frankly "old news" from 2018 anyway and this is in writing which adds provenance to the horn "Bigly". I was told by Mr. Nickels, that him and Jonathan had this horn specially built for the Iowa City ITEC in 2018 with a FULLY Sterling Silver bell for something unique that was NOT intended for production due to cost. Had this not happened to it, it was supposed to be sold for probably WELL above the $9700 price tag of a production one.
Anyway, The factory heads at Jinbao wanted to build a whole bunch of these Chicago York copies in 100% Sterling Silver and hand hammered but it obviously was going to cost too much so the thought was shelved. This is the ONLY 6/4 bell in the world ever made (and dammit look at it). Chuck checked this horn in on the airlines himself to go to ITEC and it was damaged (at some point by the baggage crew likely) before or as it arrived for that show. The horn was never played obviously and never made it to the convention, it's brand new.
Moving forward, where the story gets murky is the airlines' insurance paid off (mostly) Wessex for the horn and (they, the insurance company or airlines) ended up keeping it and eventually it became the property of the eBay seller through legal and undisclosed means. He was NOT a tuba player for those wondering and yes..if you're a male, please wear shoes when taking pictures of beautiful tubas If any of this story is not accurate and Jonathan H. would like to add to it or anything please feel free as this was what I was told as to how the damage occurred and the special history of this particular tuba which I find pretty awesome minus the crinkled VERY expensive bell.
BTW: If anyone has the correct replacement bell for this horn and wants a lot of Sterling Silver that costs a lot, perhaps a deal can be made.
Anyway, The factory heads at Jinbao wanted to build a whole bunch of these Chicago York copies in 100% Sterling Silver and hand hammered but it obviously was going to cost too much so the thought was shelved. This is the ONLY 6/4 bell in the world ever made (and dammit look at it). Chuck checked this horn in on the airlines himself to go to ITEC and it was damaged (at some point by the baggage crew likely) before or as it arrived for that show. The horn was never played obviously and never made it to the convention, it's brand new.
Moving forward, where the story gets murky is the airlines' insurance paid off (mostly) Wessex for the horn and (they, the insurance company or airlines) ended up keeping it and eventually it became the property of the eBay seller through legal and undisclosed means. He was NOT a tuba player for those wondering and yes..if you're a male, please wear shoes when taking pictures of beautiful tubas
If any of this story is not accurate and Jonathan H. would like to add to it or anything please feel free as this was what I was told as to how the damage occurred and the special history of this particular tuba which I find pretty awesome minus the crinkled VERY expensive bell. BTW: If anyone has the correct replacement bell for this horn and wants a lot of Sterling Silver that costs a lot, perhaps a deal can be made.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:52 pm
The seller sure is lying his butt off to me 
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:27 pm
There’s a reason solid silver is not the best idea for instrument construction. Makes since now that the bell ripples almost look to be frozen in motion and somewhat smooth compared to how brass normally creases.
I’ve owned a solid silver bell King 5B. It was a great trombone. I think it was more about the taper than the construction, however.
Being silver, and more malleable than brass, it might work back into shape a little easier. I dunno about residual scarring. I’ve not seen a repaired silver bell to my knowledge.
I’ve owned a solid silver bell King 5B. It was a great trombone. I think it was more about the taper than the construction, however.
Being silver, and more malleable than brass, it might work back into shape a little easier. I dunno about residual scarring. I’ve not seen a repaired silver bell to my knowledge.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:46 pm
He's not lying about anything. He doesn't have any clue who Chuck Nickels is or that story probably, nor should he since he "inherited" the horn from a relative that either worked for the airlines or the insurance company. What he IS though, is slightly dishonest about other stuff just regarding the transaction. He has 2 negatives and 1 neutral feedback in the past 6 months on eBay.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 5:49 am
The auction has been pulled.
Re: Ouch
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:47 am
Locking to avoid any further issues.