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Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:50 am
by Mary Ann
Tubeast wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:39 am Tweaking ergonomics is a favorite and reoccuring activity of mine.
Tuba manufacturers simply don´t seem to realise that a tubist´s right arm will approach the valves from below rather than horizontally and the tuba doesn´t point straight up.
Instruments appear to be made to fit the "average" of the people who will be playing them. You say the player's arm will come up from below. Not if the player is my size. I agree about the tuba not pointing straight up though. Leadpipe angle assumes the player approaches the mouthpiece from a certain angle (usually straight in, 90 degrees) and many cannot play that way because of how their faces are put together -- teeth angle, is the chin recessed (or have a big dent in it like mine does) -- that affect the necessary angle.
Too bad leadpipes and valve clusters don't have U joints in some way so they can be just angled by the customer!! To me it's similar to if there were no moveable tuning slide, and an assumption was made about where it needed to be and therefore no adjustment needed.

I want gooseneck leadpipes!!

Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:59 am
by bloke
Just as an observation related to another type of instrument, I've noticed that double basses almost never feature a cutout for a human shape to fit in - off to the side.

Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:04 pm
by Mary Ann
arpthark wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:13 am I forgot about cryonic freezing. File that next to the Lefreque under unadulterated quackery.
I think I've posted this before, but when I got my horn (third hand, from two 8D players who could not get used to it) -- she told me she had had it cryoGENETICALLY frozen. I wondered what that had done to its genetics, but I never had plans to breed it. And I agree with you about the voodoo aspect of that --- can't possibly see how it could do anything other than congeal the oil. Maybe that does something.

I think possibly there is a mildly detectible difference in whether a leadpipe has a length of it attached to the bell, but doubt if I could personally tell the difference.

Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:06 pm
by bloke
Mary Ann wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:04 pm
arpthark wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:13 am I forgot about cryonic freezing. File that next to the Lefreque under unadulterated quackery.
I think I've posted this before, but when I got my horn (third hand, from two 8D players who could not get used to it) -- she told me she had had it cryoGENETICALLY frozen. I wondered what that had done to its genetics, but I never had plans to breed it. And I agree with you about the voodoo aspect of that --- can't possibly see how it could do anything other than congeal the oil. Maybe that does something.

I think possibly there is a mildly detectible difference in whether a leadpipe has a length of it attached to the bell, but doubt if I could personally tell the difference.
I believe the person who did that required a MANDATORY acid (ultrasonic?) cleaning IN CONJUNCTION WITH the freezy thingie.

Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:30 pm
by matt g
Yes, a full ultrasonic cleaning was done prior to the freezing. Bad science.

Re: wind instrument voodoo

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:30 pm
by bloke
matt g wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:30 pm Yes, a full ultrasonic cleaning was done prior to the freezing. Bad science.
THE definition of "bad science" is "THE Science" aka "following THE Science".