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Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:52 pm
by UncleBeer
bloke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:14 pm - revenue-wise for tuba peeps - aren't really redeemable for cash.

I would disagree. :teeth:

Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:53 pm
by PlayTheTuba
UncleBeer wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:06 pm "Horn porn", eh? :teeth:
Heh heh :red: and :teeth:

Thank you!
bloke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:50 am The fact that you fit all that stuff into such small spaces is evidence of a tremendous amount of talent.
Crazy how he accomplished that too. The size and proportions an adorable looking tuba! So now they are 2 tubas I would describe as "cute." The Gronitz Eb PE55 (I assume the PE56 is the same tuba?) and @UncleBeer's custom Amati/Meinl F.

For those who lurk and don't deeeeeep dive into the forums. @Doc's review of the Gronitz Eb front action piston tuba can be found within this post and with a reverb link with photos too.
viewtopic.php?t=5315

A photo from Facebook that happens to pop up via Google searches


Apologies for regurgitating information a lot.

Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:14 pm
by Mary Ann
iiipopes wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:50 pm Above the 12th harmonic, (for example, treble clef 2nd line G on a typical CC tuba) the terminal pitch node is beyond the rim of the bell, and the horn effectively becomes a megaphone instead of a resonator. Above that, then, any pitch center is a function of the control of the player's embouchure and breath support, not of the horn.
So --- extrapolating just a tad here --- you can't play Bydlo on a CC or BBb because the highest note in that is going to sound like a megaphone instead of a resonator? But I thought I have heard it done well on a CC. ??

However, my highest clear resonant pitch of Bb on my Eb corresponds to what you said about G on a CC. Now, dammit, I'm going to have to go for the C above that Bb and see what I get.

Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:42 am
by iiipopes
Mary Ann wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:14 pm
iiipopes wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:50 pm Above the 12th harmonic, (for example, treble clef 2nd line G on a typical CC tuba) the terminal pitch node is beyond the rim of the bell, and the horn effectively becomes a megaphone instead of a resonator. Above that, then, any pitch center is a function of the control of the player's embouchure and breath support, not of the horn.
So --- extrapolating just a tad here --- you can't play Bydlo on a CC or BBb because the highest note in that is going to sound like a megaphone instead of a resonator? But I thought I have heard it done well on a CC. ??

However, my highest clear resonant pitch of Bb on my Eb corresponds to what you said about G on a CC. Now, dammit, I'm going to have to go for the C above that Bb and see what I get.
Above that, then, any pitch center is a function of the control of the player's embouchure and breath support, not of the horn. By megaphone, I mean non-specific propagation that is not note resonance; not the aspect of a megaphone that many people think of at sporting events. An analogy would be the Marconi spark-gap coil that emitted signals of a wide frequency band, not the later developed controlled frequencies for modern radio transmission.

Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:49 pm
by acemorgan
bloke wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:00 pm Tuba low pitches are low. Tuba high pitches not high.
I was playing an instrumental arrangement of "Nessun Dorma" on my tuba and I thought I sounded heroic, but my wife said it was nothing special because it was too low. I said, "It's high for a tuba!"

She replied, " Well, it doesn't sound like it. "

Re: Physical Range Limit

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:52 pm
by LeMark
I played Lucerne song today (fletcher cadenza)

Did I sound like him? Of course not, but I did get the notes