Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Tubas, euphoniums, mouthpieces, and anything music-related.
Forum rules
This section is for posts that are directly related to performance, performers, or equipment. Social issues are allowed, as long as they are directly related to those categories. If you see a post that you cannot respond to with respect and courtesy, we ask that you do not respond at all.
User avatar
Finetales
Posts: 149
Joined: Thu May 19, 2022 7:49 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 53 times
Contact:

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by Finetales »

I did briefly own an Olds S24G bass trombone. Had I had the time and play money to get a set of modern rotors and paddles/linkages put on, and the wraps redone, I might have kept it. Stock, those horrible valve levers put my hand in significant pain after 30 seconds of playing. I've never played a less ergonomic trombone...and I've played a lot of very unergonomic trombones. The rotors were alright, but how tiny they are was definitely noticeable in the valve register. All of those negatives were a real shame, because the instrument made a fabulous sound. Beefier and warmer than my 72H, but still with plenty of pop and color.

I'm not mad that I sold it as my modified 72H was better, but it would have been cool to see what that horn could become with a modern makeover.


I mostly play the slidey thing.
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19275
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3835 times
Been thanked: 4082 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by bloke »

To me, Olds was tops as far as build quality, but not as far as understanding some of the newer types of instruments during their day, including larger American bass trombones vs. those made earlier in the 20th century.
They were responsible for inventing what have become the standard marching brass instruments.
They were the first to introduce a production Geyer wrap double horn... but these things came out in the years that they were probably already in some financial trouble, sadly.

There were plenty of Olds instruments east of the Rockies, but I'm not sure that they really connected with the market east of the Rockies.

I really think their student trumpets were much closer to the modern concept of trumpets than were the small-bore Bundys and Kings of the 1960s.

tubas/baritones??
Seems to me that by 1950 or so every American manufacturer was seriously scaling back.

post 1950s-1960s Reynolds: parenthetical
User avatar
kingrob76
Posts: 635
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:24 am
Location: Reston, VA
Has thanked: 49 times
Been thanked: 186 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by kingrob76 »

Every horn I sold still has sound reasoning for selling in my mind - facilitate something else, didn't work for the way I was playing at the time, etc. Nothing I've sold was musically irreplaceable.

The only one I wish I had back was my 1985 Cerveny Piggy - not for the horn itself, but, because it was a gift from my parents upon graduating high school. The horn played okay, sounded good, but it would be more for sentimental reasons. My first Getzen (serial #21) was a pretty good horn but I've since bought a younger sibling that is working out very, very well (it's my "easy button" horn).
Rob. Just Rob.
User avatar
MN_TimTuba
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 pm
Location: Wadena County, Minnesota
Has thanked: 728 times
Been thanked: 167 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by MN_TimTuba »

I have been recently missing my old Holton 345 that I'd played for so many years. I miss it's incredible earth-shaking voice and the way she could fill up our performance hall. I'm enjoying what I have, for certain, and I'm glad she's in the stable of Daniel in Germany, and I'm glad I don't have to heft her around anymore, but man - I miss that voice.
Tim
Beelzebub and Rainbow 2.JPG
Beelzebub and Rainbow 2.JPG (117.73 KiB) Viewed 786 times
MN_Tim
Lee Stofer Custom 2341-5
Miraphone 83 Eb
Miraphone 191-5 (formerly)
Holton BBb345 (formerly and fondly)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19275
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3835 times
Been thanked: 4082 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by bloke »

I truly believe that if I sold any of my "principal" instruments and replaced any of them - individually - with a similar-yet-different one, I would end up working harder to accomplish less.
User avatar
jtm
Posts: 1107
Joined: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:51 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Has thanked: 698 times
Been thanked: 209 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by jtm »

MN_TimTuba wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:17 pm I have been recently missing my old Holton 345 that I'd played for so many years. I miss it's incredible earth-shaking voice and the way she could fill up our performance hall. I'm enjoying what I have, for certain, and I'm glad she's in the stable of Daniel in Germany, and I'm glad I don't have to heft her around anymore, but man - I miss that voice.
That's funny: Daniel got your Holton, and I got his Symphonie (or one of them, anyway).
These users thanked the author jtm for the post:
MN_TimTuba (Thu May 02, 2024 9:21 pm)
John Morris
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19275
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3835 times
Been thanked: 4082 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by bloke »

jtm wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 pm
MN_TimTuba wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:17 pm I have been recently missing my old Holton 345 that I'd played for so many years. I miss it's incredible earth-shaking voice and the way she could fill up our performance hall. I'm enjoying what I have, for certain, and I'm glad she's in the stable of Daniel in Germany, and I'm glad I don't have to heft her around anymore, but man - I miss that voice.
That's funny: Daniel got your Holton, and I got his Symphonie (or one of them, anyway).
Die Deutschen mögen den großen, starken Holton, aber nicht die verweichlichte, kleine Symphonie.


Image
Billy M.
Posts: 73
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:20 am
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 28 times

Re: Horns I sold, that I wish I had back

Post by Billy M. »

Only one comes to mind, my Mirafone 188. The first horn that I ever bought. Other than the famous tight low end, I loved the sound, the way it played so easily in most respects (heck I think I could've learned to make the low range work).

My MRP is a magnificent horn and I wouldn't trade it for the 188... but good grief, for some of the small ensemble stuff I do, it would be awesome to have when the MRP is too much.
These users thanked the author Billy M. for the post:
jtm (Mon May 06, 2024 10:59 pm)
Romans 3:23, 24

B&S MRP-C
Boosey & Hawkes Imperial 19" Eb
Besson New Standard 15" Eb
John Packer 379 FF
Post Reply