What is this mouthpiece

[avfadagio]

I just bought a new John Packer JP377 Eb tuba. It came with a mouthpiece. There are no markings on this mouthpiece at all. Can anyone help in deciphering what this mouthpiece is? Brand, size, etc. I tried contacting John Packer via their website, but they have not responded.

I've attached pictures.

Thanks.

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[iiipopes]

Probably an Asian copy of a 24AW.

[bloke]

It might be one of those copies of a Bach 22 like we've seen on eBay..

[MikeS]

If it’s the same one that came with my JP379FF, it’s a paperweight. I’m sorry if this sounds flippant, but I cannot imagine a situation where I would use it.

[bloke]

One of the few instances where they supply a pretty good mouthpieces is with their euphoniums... but I would still wager that - nine times out of ten - someone's going to decide that they don't like that particular good euphonium mouthpiece, and they're going to purchase a different one anyway.

It's always a nuisance for our little business here when we're selling a used instrument from our business whereby it's customary to supply a mouthpiece.

As an example, we are currently restoring a vintage Conn baritone saxophone, and my first pass through the retail accessories room is that I didn't see a baritone saxophone mouthpiece that I felt like we could afford to give away "free" with an instrument (I'm just not going to toss a Selmer-Paris or Vandoren baritone saxophone mouthpiece in the case just so they have a mouthpiece), so I'm going to have to go to a jobber - such as Harris/Teller, or maybe directly to Yamaha - and buy one that's better than crap but just good enough to be okay. These days, even those "okay" student Yamaha woodwind mouthpieces cost a bunch... (and if we buy the cheapest baritone saxophone mouthpiece that one of the jobbers has in their catalog, that one will be a total piece of crap, so it's like walking the fence between hundreds of dollars and still too much money for something that's just okay.)...

... and it's going to end up being the same thing:
After we sell it, the person that buys it's going to go shopping for a mouthpiece - so a waste of money anyway.

[avfadagio]

Thanks for the info. I figured it was a no name knock off. I normally play euphonium and like the Denis Wick's I have for that, so I'll probably purchase a Denis Wick 3L for the tuba.

[MiBrassFS]

If you have some calipers, take a few measurements. Inner diameter, outer diameter, etc.

[donn]

(and if we buy the cheapest baritone saxophone mouthpiece that one of the jobbers has in their catalog, that one will be a total piece of crap, so it's like walking the fence between hundreds of dollars and still too much money for something that's just okay.)

And even that is subject to personal taste. Some people like the Ricos - Graftonite, Metalite. More of that with the Metalite, because it really appeals to people with poor taste, but ... too bad there aren't any more Runyon Model 88s, that could be pretty close to what might have come on that Conn back in its day. As with brass mouthpieces. It's better to have people spend the money on their own, because having spent that money they will have a substantial investment in liking the mouthpiece.

[MikeS]

If you have some calipers, take a few measurements. Inner diameter, outer diameter, etc.

Again, I can’t say mine is identical to the one @avfadagio has, but

inner diameter- 31.8
rim width- 8.6
bore- 7.9

When I bought the horn I told the salesperson he could keep the mouthpiece and give it to a band director he liked. The response was along the lines of, “Thanks, but no. I actually like them.”