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First those who didn't check my loyalist website thats a factory made 4/4 CC york symphony tuba!

Awesome picture. How does it play?

I guess I'd consider it a "large 4/4" which can really crank dynamically, with a gorgeous even sound. I think what they call "the" York sound. .. .750" bore, 19" bell, Its very free-blowing and reminds me of that satin silver Bohm & Meinl that I played for many years, but is more the size of my long-time PT4P that I got from Alex Balcazar years ago. It is MUCH lighter than the PT at about 19 pounds! Some people think of its BBflat version as the York competition for the old King 2341, but this one being CC (and built in 1925) its not quite that tall and f course the bore is much bigger. The bell is a replacement probably from a York Monster Eflat. Sound in my living room is more direct than the Bohm was and much more colorful than the Perantucci is. It turned out to be a pretty flexible axe, and is always interesting in a big room or auditorium. Intonation is very good, and helped some by the free-blowing nature which makes the slots not so tight. In section the Miraphone guys don't like it while they pull slides saying "I can always tell when a York's in the section" Heck its 10 years older than my Harley! Cant believe I have had it ten years now!

Love it!

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.

I'm guessing (??) that the original #4 circuit either

- suited the valve combinations routines of the time, or...(??)
- suited the original purchaser, or...(??)
- was elongated, in order to make an in-tune pulled-1 + 4 "low F" viable, or...(??)
- (as few of these were made) York just made it a bit too much shorter than the B-flat version's 4th circuit.

I can see that someone rounded up some correct/York slide tubing and elongated the circuit.

I've altered one or more of the circuit lengths on most of my personally-owned tubas...

Just as with the front-action York *E-flat (that I owned for a very short time, decades ago...and I'm not referring to any work that I did to it), there is great beauty (nearly approaching "art") in the design.
*https://i.imgur.com/DAXg3bd.jpg

A friend of mine (a bass trombone specialist...and university studio teacher) bought a Conn 52J - back when they were being produced.
On eBay, someone offered a York 33 complete body (bell and bugle) shortened to C, and with flanges located on it to accept a 52J valveset.
I strongly encouraged my friend to purchase that, which he did.
I had to slightly move a few of the flanges (as not every tuba is going to be assembled precisely the same) to receive his 52J valveset.
Once we were able to transfer the machine from his 52J bell/bugle to the cut-down-to-C York 33 bell/bugle, the quality of the resonance was about 200% improved, whereas the quality of the intonation only diminished very-very subtly.

You know, @dp... if that tuba ever needed to be re-homed in a more southern latitude, I know a fella...

bloke wrote:Just as with the front-action York *E-flat (that I owned for a very short time, decades ago...and I'm not referring to any work that I did to it), there is great beauty (nearly approaching "art") in the design.

My sentiments, exactly.

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@dp, would it be okay to use the photo of your horn on the Instagram account due to its rarity and general interest from the community?

Thank you in advance for the consideration either way.

How much for the rug, and for the window unit (priced separately, or as a pkg.) ?

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dp wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:18 pm

matt g wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:51 am @dp, would it be okay to use the photo of your horn on the Instagram account due to its rarity and general interest from the community?
Thank you in advance for the consideration either way.

Hi Matt, sure here is the link if you want to e-mail me for the much larger file I can pass it on (it won't upload here)

Awesome! If you wanna shoot me a high resolution photo of the 696, it would make a nice A/B post.

Thank you!

It would be a pretty awesome photo to see all your cc’s lined up!

Curious to know the bell flare diameter and length (rim to ferrule).

Looks to be from a monster E flat or model 33 BB flat (19” bell). Those are considerably shorter than the 700 series bells, so I’d really love to have the opportunity to measure what York originally used for an upright bell on the 692.




Poor quality reproduction, but the text claims that both tubas are CC 692s, although the one on the right sure looks like a BB flat to me.



This horn however is undoubtedly a CC 692

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As an addendum to my post, it’s likely that the 692 was probably ordered by players on a professional high-profile level, and as such were probably able to customize the horn to their satisfaction, so there may actually be no “standard” bell.

“all speculation”

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