Page 1 of 1
Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:37 pm
by tubatodd
I have a new-to-me Besson 995 with the MW big valves. I’m using the stock springs and I’m slowly getting used to them. I have a set of Yamaha euph springs from the previous owner. I haven’t tried them yet. But from my Yamaha spring experiences on a 2165, I remember them to be soft but too bouncy.
Has anyone tried the Mead springs for tuba and are they still for sale? If still for sale…where? I would like something a bit softer but not bouncy.
Is there another alternative?
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:08 pm
by peterbas
Google and you find
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:09 pm
by BramJ
I have used 2 sets in my Besson 994, first the tuba specific ones (
https://www.euphoniumstore.net/product= ... d-cc-tubas) but recently I switched to the originals (
https://www.euphoniumstore.net/product= ... eb-f-tubas)
my valves are very smooth, the lighter ones perform fine and without bounce and no annoying sounds from the springs
I first used the orignals in a Besson 794 (non-comp version of the 994), these have shorter/lighter valves but since I am no longer using that instrument I switched the springs to the 994 as an experiment
I have no experience with the MW big valves, but I cannot imagine them being heavier then the looooong compensating valves in my 994, I would recommend going for the 'Originals'
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:47 pm
by bloke
sidebars:
> Yamaha spring ENDS are dipped in plastic, which - after a few years - begins to peel off.
> When (most any) valve springs are not bent (ie. not even a little bit) and fit within any provided bottom cap inset, my piston valve instruments never suffer from valve noise (regardless of whether there is a plastic coating).
summary:
> bottom of spring diameter might be important, particularly if there's a bottom cap inset.
> springs should not be (not even slightly bent). It's really important for the spring tops and bottoms (at "rest") to be remarkably parallel.
-------------------------------------------
also:
Rubber appliances which are designed to install inside bottom valve caps: nasty
Piston valve springs last - just about - a person's (or two persons') lifetime(s) without significantly weakening (unless messed with or subject to odd forces).
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:54 pm
by Sousaswag
I use Yamaha springs in my piston tubas (albeit, both are the Nirschl-made small block, and one of them has MAW valves). They’re also in my Holton 345 and 350 blocks. They work just fine, but as Joe mentioned, I do keep an eye on them every couple months just to make sure nothing is peeling.
I haven’t found anything I like better than the Yamaha springs. In previous piston tubas, namely my Willson F, I immediately switched out the factory heavy springs.
Mead Springs - Never tried them, can’t comment. Sorry! Give the Yammie ones a shot. If they’re too bouncy, your local repair person probably has some other strengths to try out.
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:00 pm
by Pauvog1
I use the Yamaha tuba springs too. Have for years based on Joe's recommendation, and I haven't had issues. I just keep an eye on them and keep the horns well maintained!
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:05 pm
by LeMark
I use the light springs with my York Eb
Re: Mead Springs for tuba?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:07 pm
by gocsick
I use the Mead Light in the Euphonium. Thinking about trying then in the old Holton Eb, currently have Yamaha in there now and Happy. Just like to fiddle with things.