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Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:47 am
by Thom
I watched the Sunday Morning Show and there was a piece about Symphony Orchestras playing the soundtracks with the movies. They reported that when they did this the audience is as much as 50% first time attendees! Maybe someone else thought of this before, but someone should come up with a way to sync the Concert Band arrangements with edited scenes from the movies. I think it could actually be a possible moneymaker, for whoever creates the edited scenes and for Community Concerts Bands, School Bands, et cetera.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:57 am
by LeMark
I've done it before with the movie home alone with an orchestra. It's fun. I'd love to do Muppet Christmas Carol at some point. Great tuba parts
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:19 am
by MiBrassFS
There’s an arrangement for tuba euphonium ensemble that accompanies some Looney Tunes cartoons. I played it in school 30+ odd years ago… Don’t remember the arranger or details.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:23 am
by Thom
I am just thinking of the medleys most community/school bands already play. My idea is to have some movie/computer person edit scenes to fit the time frame of the arranged medleys of songs, with a count down for the conductor. Most of these pieces are only about 5 to 15 minutes long. I am not talking about actually syncing the entire movie's music, I think that would be too much for community/school bands.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:31 am
by bloke
I've done these, will do more(-and-more) of them, they're silly/unfulfilling - but they do sell all the seats, there's usually more to play than in any Mahler symphony, and the checks cash.
The thing is that orchestral work really doesn't pay enough if there's no fulfillment, and quality music concerts are being replaced with these (rather than with these in addition to quality music concerts).
...and all the same goes for video game orchestra concerts.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:10 pm
by donn
LeMark wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:57 am
I've done it before with the movie home alone with an orchestra.
Full movie, or just bits and pieces?
There have been bands that play for old silent films. I doubt it pays, but I'm sure a good time is had by all.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:11 pm
by LeMark
Full movie including the tuba solos
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:17 pm
by bloke
Thom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:47 am
I watched the Sunday Morning Show and there was a piece about Symphony Orchestras playing the soundtracks with the movies. They reported that when they did this the audience is as much as 50% first time attendees! Maybe someone else thought of this before, but someone should come up with a way to sync the Concert Band arrangements with edited scenes from the movies. I think it could actually be a possible moneymaker, for whoever creates the edited scenes and for Community Concerts Bands, School Bands, et cetera.
Addressing your actual inquiry/suggestion...
This sounds like I'm talking down to people who play in concert bands, but if you've ever played some of the Hindsley transcriptions of orchestral works, you understand that any concert band that covers any orchestral music is going to have to have some hoss players to be able to cover what the string players would otherwise be playing. The stuff that string players routinely play is incredible.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:09 pm
by Thom
bloke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:17 pm
Thom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:47 am
I watched the Sunday Morning Show and there was a piece about Symphony Orchestras playing the soundtracks with the movies. They reported that when they did this the audience is as much as 50% first time attendees! Maybe someone else thought of this before, but someone should come up with a way to sync the Concert Band arrangements with edited scenes from the movies. I think it could actually be a possible moneymaker, for whoever creates the edited scenes and for Community Concerts Bands, School Bands, et cetera.
Addressing your actual inquiry/suggestion...
This sounds like I'm talking down to people who play in concert bands, but if you've ever played some of the Hindsley transcriptions of orchestral works, you understand that any concert band that covers any orchestral music is going to have to have some hoss players to be able to cover what the string players would otherwise be playing. The stuff that string players routinely play is incredible.
I played tuba for 2 years in a local amateur symphony orchestra. I do NOT think string players are snobby at all! I am very impressed with their abilities and mastery of a extremely complex instrument. Though, I do think some business managers can be snobby
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:46 am
by tofu
I’d love to see a professional orchestra do some of the Victory at Sea reels with a live orchestra, a good announcer doing the voiceover and a giant screen. The music from that series back in the 1950’s is just spectacular and the combination with the WWII footage is just - WOW! Watching destroyers, cruisers and battleships bows breaking huge waves in heavy seas during a storm is such an amazing breathtaking sight. Every time I watch it I can imagine how tough that would be to be on board physically & mentally combined with the overall anxiety of war. What a work of art they churned out over ten consecutive weeks for over the air tv back then. But I’m guessing that’s not going to sell out like Shrek! does.
My concert band has done some arrangements that some of the guest (active & retired) military conductors have brought with them that combine music and war footage for Veterans Day concerts. Those have been extremely well received and enjoyable to play - although I often want to turn and crank my head around to see the footage.
I always assumed those arrangements were done by armed forces arrangers. I should have paid closer attention, but then again my main focus is don’t screw up when there is a name on the podium.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:22 am
by Thom
Do like the symphony musicians, get a rearview mirror from Amazon and put it on top of your stand lamp
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:03 pm
by bloke
Thom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:22 am
Do like the symphony musicians, get a rearview mirror from Amazon and put it on top of your stand lamp
I'd end up missing entrances, and not be hired to do the next one...Unlike the person/people in the article (symphony movies) I'm only contracted from one year to the next and (symphony video games) around here, those are freelance jobs - hired by contractors (not by established orchestras).
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:31 pm
by russiantuba
I did the first Harry Potter with a regional group last year. Two sell out crowds in a big hall, challenging parts, overtime pay with the group, and used my mute a TON. I think I can say that performance alone has paid for my ancient 1970s Tennessee Tech mute I bought in 2007.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:50 pm
by bloke
I believe I've seen where an orchestra played live under "The Red Violin"...
...' seems sorta dumb (ok "to me") to cut off Josh Bell's soundtrack and have a freeway philharmonic's concertmaster take his place.
Re: Movies and Live Music
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
by arpthark
bloke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:50 pm
I believe I've seen where an orchestra played live under "The Red Violin"...
...' seems sorta dumb (ok "to me") to cut off Josh Bell's soundtrack and have a freeway philharmonic's concertmaster take his place.
As long as the tuba player took a cue from the title, I think it'd be fine: