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puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 12:34 pm
by bloke
I saw this in a piece of music...
What does this mean?

pesotum tolono

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 1:28 pm
by prodigal
Watch the conductor is my best guess.

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:09 pm
by Schlitzz
Most things printed on the music implore you to watch the conductor, or play the oboe/viola cues.

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:12 pm
by tubanh84
Google Maps tells me it's 5.2 miles between Pesotum, Illinois and Tolono, Illinois. Both in Champaigne County.

This article talks about the two towns during WWI: https://thekeep.eiu.edu/historia/

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:25 pm
by Bassboner
I'd bet it means "heavy" something or other. Aside from the fact that it's on a tuba part, "peso" means weight (or "cheap date" in Mexicoland).

Alternatively, Ai says:
Based on a search of Indonesian, regional dialects, and common slang, "pesotum tolono" does not appear to be a recognized phrase in the Indonesian language.

Or,

It is highly likely these are misspellings or misinterpretations of Italian musical terms. Based on the likely intent, here are potential corrections:
Tolono may be a misspelling of Tono (Tone/Pitch) or Tosto (Rapid/Swift).
Pesotum may be a misspelling of Pesante (Heavy/Weighted).

I'd prolly go with the fast and heavy cheap date.

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:29 pm
by gocsick
According to Wikipedia Tolono.. came from a shorthand note on a surveyors map... to low, no.. swampland.

Pesotum was named after a tribal warrior ..

So obviously that means... Majestically but you know like casual and not too deep.

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:54 pm
by bloke
yeah...just a little chuckle for the weekend.

Someone got it right off the bat. :gaah:
(Google ruins everything. :laugh: )


Image


A friend (amazing organized and darn-good trombonist) wrote a brass quintet theme-and-variations on Over The Waves (back when we were in kolij), and that was his tempo/expression marking at the beginning. :thumbsup:

btw...
I'm no where near there (suburbs of Champaign/Urbana), I pulled the sign pic off of street view (I-57).

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:23 pm
by tubanh84
bloke wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:54 pm yeah...just a little chuckle for the weekend.

Someone got it right off the bat. :gaah:
(Google ruins everything. :laugh: )


Image


A friend (amazing organized and darn-good trombonist) wrote a brass quintet theme-and-variations on Over The Waves (back when we were in kolij), and that was his tempo/expression marking at the beginning. :thumbsup:

btw...
I'm no where near there (suburbs of Champaign/Urbana), I pulled the sign pic off of street view (I-57).
I grew up in New England, around a lot of hills and twisty roads. I've spent most of my adult life in Alaska near the water and mountains. I can't stand not living near the water, and I love the mountains.

However.

It always feels so good when I have an excuse to get onto some long, straight, open roads where the sky doesn't end. That picture makes me want to go for a drive.

Re: puzzled over musical expression marking

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 8:44 pm
by russiantuba
bloke wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 2:54 pm yeah...just a little chuckle for the weekend.

Someone got it right off the bat. :gaah:
(Google ruins everything. :laugh: )


Image


A friend (amazing organized and darn-good trombonist) wrote a brass quintet theme-and-variations on Over The Waves (back when we were in kolij), and that was his tempo/expression marking at the beginning. :thumbsup:

btw...
I'm no where near there (suburbs of Champaign/Urbana), I pulled the sign pic off of street view (I-57).
If Mickey Moore was on the forums, he would have gotten it as soon as you pressed submit.