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@LeMark, PLEASE make this a sticky. I have received "tracking numbers" from various folks who are trying to be helpful, but send the wrong number. I have received internal receipt numbers, item product codes, address encodings, etc., instead of the actual tracking number. Usually on a receipt it is marked "Tracking Number...." Many times the USPS (post office) clerk will circle it on your receipt. UPS receipts say "Tracking number..." but in fine print, hard to see. I spent two years in the last job I retired from in the warehouse and was in charge of shipping, returns, etc. Here is the information on the three most common customer shippers.

USPS (post office) tracking numbers are unique alphanumeric sequences used to trace packages through the mail stream. They vary in length and composition depending on the specific mail class and service used. Common USPS tracking number formats include: Domestic Packages (Most Common): 22 digits long, typically starting with 90, 94, 93, 92, or 95. (Example: 9400 1000 0000 0000 0000 00) Priority Mail Express: 10 digits numeric, or 13 characters starting with two letters and ending with US. (Example: EA 123 456 789 US) Certified Mail: 20 to 22 digits, typically starting with 94. International Shipments: 13 characters beginning with two letters (e.g., CP, CJ, LC, EE) and ending with US. (Example: CP 123 456 789 US) Where to Find Them. Retail Receipts: The tracking number is printed at the bottom of your Post Office receipt. Shipping Labels: Found directly under the barcode on the mailing label. Online Postage: Provided on your Click-N-Ship receipt or third-party shipping platform (like Pirate Ship, eBay, or Shopify). Informed Delivery: You can view tracking numbers for incoming packages on your USPS Informed Delivery dashboard. Tracking Your Item. You can check the real-time status of your package on the official USPS Tracking web page by entering your exact sequence without any dashes or spaces. You can also text the tracking number to 28777. Link to follow a USPS tracking number: https://www.usps.com/
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FedEx tracking numbers are unique numeric or alphanumeric codes used to locate and monitor shipments. They primarily consist of purely numeric sequences. Core Characteristics: Length: Most FedEx tracking numbers are 12 digits long. Depending on the specific service level, they can also occasionally be 10, 15, 20, or 22 digits. Format: FedEx tracking numbers generally do not contain letters. Reference Tracking: In addition to the standard tracking number, you can often locate or monitor your package using the sender's Customer Reference Number or an Order Reference Number. Duration: Tracking records for FedEx Express, Ground, and Custom Critical are kept active in their system for 90 days after delivery. FedEx Freight shipment data is retained for two years. How to Track: You can use the official FedEx Tracking page to view the current location of your package, sign up for delivery alerts, or view photographic proof of delivery. Would you like to learn about: What specific FedEx tracking statuses (e.g., "In Transit," "At a facility") mean? How to use the FedEx Mobile App to intercept or reroute your package? How to track a package if you don't have your tracking number? Link to follow a FedEx tracking number: https://www.fedex.com/en-us/home.html
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Most standard UPS tracking numbers are 18 alphanumeric characters and begin with "1Z". A typical 1Z tracking number encodes specific routing and billing information. 1Z: Denotes the standard UPS carrier format. Characters 3–8: The Shipper Account Number; Characters 9–10: The Service Level Indicator (e.g., 01 for Next Day Air, 03 for Ground); Characters 11–17: The specific Package Identifier.Character; 18: The Checksum digit, used by systems to validate the number is accurate. Other UPS Tracking Formats: While the 1Z format is most common, UPS systems can also process several other types of tracking numbers depending on the type of freight:999999999999 (12-digit): Typically used for UPS Mail Innovations or consolidated ground shipments.T9999999999 (10-digit): Used for delivery notices left by a driver.7 to 20-Character Codes: Used for less-than-truckload (LTL) shipments, ocean freight (House Bill of Lading), or air freight (House Air Waybill).Tracking by Reference NumberInstead of a tracking number, you can also track your package by a custom Shipment Reference Number (up to 35 characters). This is usually an invoice, purchase order, or customer-defined number created by the shipper. Link to follow a UPS tracking number: https://www.ups.com/us/en/home

If in doubt - PLEASE ask the clerk behind the counter to mark or circle the tracking number on your receipt for you so you send the correct number to the person purchasing your item.

I just had the most frustrating tracking number episode! I had sent something to be fixed (Wisconsin) and the guy sent me a tracking number, finally, after I asked after, several weeks, if it was fixed. But the UPS site said it had been delivered already, to some place in Missouri. I caused a ruckus, he finally figured out he had sent the wrong tracking number and sent a different one.

So this one, they said it had been delivered "to the front desk, mailing room or reception." Not to my house. So I created an even larger ruckus.

Some people are just dumb, you know? He had taken the package to UPS, said "return to sender" but ok'd the address apparently without having any idea if it was correct. He had sent it, without a name on it, back to the UPS store I had shipped it from. He had to get on the phone with the store and give them my name so I could go pick it up.

I did get the thing back, finally, and it was fixed, but it will be a long time before I send anything to that person again.

I agree this is useful information, but I don’t think it needs to be a sticky in this full form. The main point is simple: people need to send the actual tracking number, not a receipt number, product code, internal reference number, or address code.

A shorter reminder would probably work better: “When shipping an item, please make sure you send the tracking number specifically marked ‘Tracking Number’ on the receipt. If you are unsure, ask the USPS/UPS/FedEx clerk to circle it before you leave.”

The detailed carrier-by-carrier breakdown is helpful, but it may be too long for a sticky and could overwhelm people. A brief rule in the shipping guidelines or FAQ would probably be enough.

Mary Ann wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 5:59 pm I just had the most frustrating tracking number episode! I had sent something to be fixed (Wisconsin) and the guy sent me a tracking number, finally, after I asked after, several weeks, if it was fixed. But the UPS site said it had been delivered already, to some place in Missouri. I caused a ruckus, he finally figured out he had sent the wrong tracking number and sent a different one.

So this one, they said it had been delivered "to the front desk, mailing room or reception." Not to my house. So I created an even larger ruckus.

Some people are just dumb, you know? He had taken the package to UPS, said "return to sender" but ok'd the address apparently without having any idea if it was correct. He had sent it, without a name on it, back to the UPS store I had shipped it from. He had to get on the phone with the store and give them my name so I could go pick it up.

I did get the thing back, finally, and it was fixed, but it will be a long time before I send anything to that person again.

I’m sorry that happened to you. I’ve dealt with something like this a few weeks ago. The best way is to be patient and respectful because mistakes and over sights happen. I’ve heard the OP has been impatient with several people and getting a couple people in trouble unnecessarily because of not being patient/communication.

I do agree with him 100% in his post and what he’s saying and I really appreciate the time he’s taken to outline this to everyone.

Oh, I was polite to the guy who screwed up, but my opinion has been known far and wide otherwise.

Mary Ann wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 7:28 pm

Mary Ann wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 7:27 pm Oh, I was polite to the guy who screwed up, but my opinion has been known far and wide otherwise.
And I see no reason for you to dis the OP. Uncalled for, makes you no better than what you are saying about him.

Oh Mary Ann, I’m not dissing the OP I’m just having a conversation. All is good. I just think this topic is extra and kinda unnecessary.

I have a USPS account and a FedEx account.
A long time ago I had a UPS account... Maybe I still do, but I just consider it to be redundant.
Whenever I type up a label, if I just put in the customer's email address or phone number, they're going to text or email the correct tracking number to them automatically.

I guess I'm different from most people, but I never track packages that are coming to me. Either they come or they don't, and - if they don't come for about a week or more - I (finally) might track them.

I don't have things of much consequence shipped to me.
Like Wade, I'll probably drive there, make sure it's what I expected it to be and in the condition I expected it to be in, and I carefully load it and bring it to my home myself.
If it's something like some brass garden hose fittings (which I can get online for about a fourth at the price that Ace Hardware charges), whenever they come, they come.

Here's the other thing about tracking:
When stuff is moving along as it should, the tracking makes perfect sense.
Otherwise, the tracking doesn't make any sense and (since there's no information because typically shipping and tracking both mess up simultaneously) it doesn't do any good when you really need it to help you.

JCTuba67 wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 6:30 pm I agree this is useful information, but I don’t think it needs to be a sticky in this full form. The main point is simple: people need to send the actual tracking number, not a receipt number, product code, internal reference number, or address code.

I agree. I've never once had any issue based on getting the wrong number for tracking.

Furthermore, the two fool-proof methods I use for communicating shipping info are:

1) send a photo of the receipt
2) copy/paste and email the shipping info, if done online (or forward the shipping receipt email)

These are also good because then the buyer can see how much I paid for shipping, and compare it to what I charged them for it.

I think this may work better as a short reminder rather than a long sticky post. If people in the group are repeatedly sending the wrong numbers, then a pinned post makes sense. I just think it should be condensed so people actually read it. I highly doubt this is a consistent issue across the board.

bort2.0 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 12:53 am Furthermore, the two fool-proof methods I use for communicating shipping info are:

1) send a photo of the receipt
2) copy/paste and email the shipping info, if done online (or forward the shipping receipt email)

These are also good because then the buyer can see how much I paid for shipping, and compare it to what I charged them for it.

INDEED!!! And send a pic of THE ENTIRE RECEIPT, and make sure it is legible, including the tracking number, before the sender hits "send" on his email, cell phone, etc.

Porky wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 3:50 am I think this may work better as a short reminder rather than a long sticky post. If people in the group are repeatedly sending the wrong numbers, then a pinned post makes sense. I just think it should be condensed so people actually read it. I highly doubt this is a consistent issue across the board.

No. It needs to be a sticky. I have dealt with more people who say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know...." then screw it up completely. All of it needs to be in the sticky to make sure, especially my last advice: ask the person behind the counter if you are not sure. Only by education about how courier services work can we be better equipped to deal with shipping our items, especially since they tend to be larger than most other musical instruments and accessories.