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Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:01 pm
by KingTuba1241X
With or without base on it like this. Or link to someone who has one or sells them. Thank You!

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:44 pm
by LeMark
I looked for a long time. Even Cerveny doesn't sell those anymore, and they made them famous.

It was suggesting to me to make my own. I'm tempted

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:05 pm
by KingTuba1241X
LeMark wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:44 pm I looked for a long time. Even Cerveny doesn't sell those anymore, and they made them famous.

It was suggesting to me to make my own. I'm tempted
That one in the photo is actually an older Hirsbrunner ring. Something a little smaller in diameter but as thick would be nice for my King project.

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:02 pm
by bloke
This is NOT what you're seeking, but (just in case it interests you or others...) I'm about to order one of these assemblies from Yamaha - to see if it might work out on my Holton project.

The ring is sort of a beefy version of a Miraphone thumb ring, and the bracket strongly resembles those Miraphone lever carriage mounts (with a sturdy cast "C"-shape that is soldered to slide tubing). I became aware of this thing when a school handed me a Yamaha contra to clean and repair.

...I plan to solder the bracket to the lower narrow loop of a KING #1 slide circuit (which is the only reason I thought you might be interested in seeing it...I'm probably placing my misc. Yamaha parts order on Monday.)

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Otherwise...You can make one just like you're seeking:

> Buy this: https://www.mcmaster.com/8859K26/ (5/16" o.d. large enough for you...??)

> Heat the whole thing red hot and let it air cool (ie. anneal/soften it for easy bending).

> Buy some cerrobend (eBay, or elsewhere) and fill the brass tube with it.

> Bend it into a circle, reheat and dump the cerrobend, and braze the ends together.

> Clean and polish it.

> If nickel-colored or silver colored is preferred, get it plated at Anderson...and - if you want it brazed to a flange, you might decide to do that prior to any possible plating. Actually (as the wall thickness is only .014") nickel plating (double or triple thickness) might be advisable.

I posted this because I - like Mark - have no idea where to buy something like this.

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:30 pm
by BuddyRogersMusic
Lee Stofer might have one from Rudolf Meinl. He had two with different size flanges to fit the 3/4 and 4/4 CC tubas.

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:05 pm
by The Big Ben
Dan Oberloh makes these. He takes a length of annealed brass tubing of appropriate dimension and wraps it around an appropriate sized mandrel. He might fill it with cerrobend. Or not. It looks like a coil and then he slices them off with a saw, matches the ends and brazes them into a circle. They can be finished in a variety of ways to fasten them to a horn. Or left plain for techs who wish to customize them for a specific application. Give him a call and he probably can work something out for you.

I have one of these "Big O" thumb rings on my horn. It improves my tone. I can hit higher highs and lower lows. My articulation is better and the entire horn "slots" better. It's really neat.

They are not listed on his website but you can get contact info there. He also posts here.

www.oberloh.com

Re: Wanted: Large German Style thumb ring

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:36 pm
by KingTuba1241X
BuddyRogersMusic wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:30 pm Lee Stofer might have one from Rudolf Meinl. He had two with different size flanges to fit the 3/4 and 4/4 CC tubas.
Thanks I will contact him.. :thumbsup: