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Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 12:09 am
by York-aholic
Looks interesting:

https://offerup.com/item/detail/1203172478?q=tuba

It is within an hour or so of me. If anyone wants it, I'd go pick it up and get it shipped to you, in exchange for me playing it for a day or two...

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Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:29 am
by matt g
There are a lot of things interesting about that horn.

Looks like a fair price. Case is nice.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:31 am
by bloke
The most interesting thing is how un-Alex it appears.

I'm no expert on old Russian tubas, but...

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:58 am
by Stryk
Very cool horn. I am about tubaed out or I would take a stab at it.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:03 am
by KingTuba1241X
That's a Leningrad and that was my old horn I sold the guy for $500 5 years ago. He is a banda player and trying to fool people by calling it an Alex and inflating the price. I had Corey at Sam Ash music in Westminster, Ca put those paddles on it and the US size receiver shank on it to fit American mouthpieces.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:30 am
by bort2.0
KingTuba1241X wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 10:03 am That's a Leningrad and that was my old horn I sold the guy for $500 5 years ago. He is a banda player and trying to fool people by calling it an Alex and inflating the price. I had Corey at Sam Ash music in Westminster, Ca put those paddles on it and the US size receiver shank on it to fit American mouthpieces.
This confirmed all of my original thoughts. $500 sounds like a decent price.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:32 am
by Three Valves
@KingTuba1241X Don't you feel silly for not knowing what you had?? :smilie2:

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:36 am
by KingTuba1241X
Three Valves wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 10:32 am @KingTuba1241X Don't you feel silly for not knowing what you had?? :smilie2:
I bet Jose will feel even more sillier when he reads my message saying I know he's a snake oil salesman :smilie2: I didn't sell him that case though, so if you could get it for $500 with that case it's a bargain. And I will say, that horn played AWESOME. Super clean false tones in the pedal range. Very easy to blow and very nimble. I wouldn't mind having it back actually for fun.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:38 am
by KingTuba1241X
Those are M&M paddles we put on there as well, since those little Ancient Sovietsky tear drop paddles were too small and junky. This horn still needs miniballs put on it to be REALLY good. :thumbsup:

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:00 am
by bort2.0
What is the bell engraving?

Perhaps he meant this Alexander?
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Alexander I of Russia
Born 23 December 1777
Saint Petersburg, Russian Empire

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 12:41 pm
by KingTuba1241X
bort2.0 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:00 am What is the bell engraving?

Perhaps he meant this Alexander?
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Alexander I of Russia
Born 23 December 1777
Saint Petersburg, Russian Empire
It's just the old Leningrad logo with the price of the horn etched into the brass. Pretty interesting how they did that, price cap for future Craigslist sales (until Capitalism came around and everyone forgot how to read Cyrillic). :huh:

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 12:54 pm
by LargeTuba

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:21 pm
by KingTuba1241X
LargeTuba wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:54 pm hm https://imgur.com/gallery/vz0tG8i

Hmmm
:wall: :eyes:

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:40 pm
by LargeTuba
I sold one of these in near perfect condition for about $700 a couple of months ago.

These can actually be very nice players although it was too "bright" for my taste.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by York-aholic
KingTuba1241X wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 10:03 am That's a Leningrad and that was my old horn I sold the guy for $500 5 years ago. He is a banda player and trying to fool people by calling it an Alex and inflating the price. I had Corey at Sam Ash music in Westminster, Ca put those paddles on it and the US size receiver shank on it to fit American mouthpieces.
Yep, that's why I put the (?) in the title.

500 up to 1500. That's inflation for you! :wall:

I sold a row boat (on a trailer) to a guy for $500. About 6 months later he had it up for $5000 after repainting the inside from a nice, neutral light tan color to a putrid sea foam green (expensive paint? :laugh: Saw he is down to $3500.
:coffee:

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 4:55 pm
by KingTuba1241X
I kinda like Sea foam green, just not $3500 sea foam green!

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:00 pm
by tubaing
I think the only time someone bought one of my instruments "to flip"...

I bought a tuba on eBay because I thought I could double my money (unless I loved the tuba and wanted to keep it). A music store bought it from me and listed it on eBay for more than double what I sold it for. I remember it being listed for several (2-4) years. I think they overestimated its value... Or maybe it's sold for what they wanted. I don't see it up anymore... Or maybe they discounted it a bunch.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:47 am
by York-aholic
KingTuba1241X wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:55 pm I kinda like Sea foam green, just not $3500 sea foam green!
Yeah, but like this?
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I was close, he’s down to $3800

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:24 am
by KingTuba1241X
Sure, that's awesome..you won't know when the boat is taking on water that way :laugh: No honestly though, that's a great color kind of reminds me of the boat flume on "It's a Small World" at Disneyland. Price not so much though.

Re: Interesting Alexander (?)

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:52 am
by hrender
tubaing wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:00 pm I think the only time someone bought one of my instruments "to flip"...

I bought a tuba on eBay because I thought I could double my money (unless I loved the tuba and wanted to keep it). A music store bought it from me and listed it on eBay for more than double what I sold it for. I remember it being listed for several (2-4) years. I think they overestimated its value... Or maybe it's sold for what they wanted. I don't see it up anymore... Or maybe they discounted it a bunch.
I see a fair number of instruments on eBay that are up for years. There's a particular Conn Eb that I think has been listed for the same "optimistic" price for over a decade. I wouldn't be surprised if it has been up for closer to two decades.