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Has anyone played both of these horns and if so how do they compare? They seem to be a similar size, with the Bruckner maybe being slightly bigger. I’m referring to the newer Alex’s.

Well the Bruckner plays really well. Easy to play, in my opinion, every register. The large bore and being between a 4/4 and 5/4 Tuba allows powerful players tob take advantage of them without being up. I actually preferred the Bruckner over the B&S 4197 (pt20p) but I personally think they're bigger than I would've liked. So I'm getting a 4097 (pt20)-rotary instead.

The used Alexander at this year's Army conference sounded nice. Didn't spend to much time with it though.

I believe Horn Guys has a brand new Alexander 163 for sale. I know technically they want to sell what they have but could be worth a call. And they also have a Bruckner too.

New Alexander 163 link
https://hornguys.com/collections/cc-tub ... -cc-tuba-1

New Miraphone 291 Bruckner
https://hornguys.com/collections/cc-tub ... ry-cc-tuba

Although, if 4/4 rotary CC is on your list, the B&S might be worthy enough to include it. Best of luck

The Bruckner might be my favorite CC tuba, but I have to admit not having the chance to play many Alexanders

Bruckner is easier to play
Alexander sounds better

Otherwise think they're pretty different, and hard to compare.

Horn guys has a VERY nice-looking 6v Alexander 163 for sale for less than a new Bruckner, I believe.

I’d buy the Alex and run with it just for the great deal and rarity/cool-factor. I’m sure it’s a great tuba. The Miraphones are great players too but as I’ve mentioned before I don’t like the upward-pointing leadpipe angle. You may disagree.

Sousaswag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 am Horn guys has a VERY nice-looking 6v Alexander 163 for sale for less than a new Bruckner, I believe.

I’d buy the Alex and run with it just for the great deal and rarity/cool-factor. I’m sure it’s a great tuba. The Miraphones are great players too but as I’ve mentioned before I don’t like the upward-pointing leadpipe angle. You may disagree.

Upward pointing leadpipe angle? That is actually what I NEED. Picture? I haven't seen ANYTHING but straight-out leadpipe angles on non-modified tubas.

https://hornguys.com/products/miraphone ... -cc-tuba-1

https://hornguys.com/collections/cc-tub ... gold-brass

Look at the 7th picture down of the horn’s side view. Notice how the leadpipe bends upward towards the bell. It looks more pronounced on the Bruckner.

I owned one of these and while I liked how it played, I could never be comfortable with that angle being as tall as I am, I felt like I was looking down while I played.