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Dvorak 9 is programmed too often, becomes tedious, and this is not only because we have so little to do and so much sitting to do.

Even though Brahms Requiem seems to be programmed at least once every other year by some church or some local orchestra or both, it's really difficult to tire of it.

What are some major works which rate up there with the Brahms?

In the community bands I have played in - Sleigh Ride for Christmas. I feel it is over done as every Christmas concert .

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rodgeman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:28 pm In the community bands I have played in - Sleigh Ride for Christmas. I feel it is over done as every Christmas concert .

Yes, but I'm asking which really big works - that take 20 minutes or twice that long to play - do NOT become tiring - regardless of how often they are programmed.

Specifically to your comment, I don't mind playing Sleigh Ride two or three times at various venues each December, but what disappoints me or how bad the horse whinnies always sound... particularly as one of my close friends is the world's authority on playing them:

rodgeman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:28 pm In the community bands I have played in - Sleigh Ride for Christmas. I feel it is over done as every Christmas concert .

BOOOO!!

Give the people what thy want.

bloke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:37 pm
Yes, but I'm asking which really big works - that take 20 minutes or twice that long to play - do NOT become tiring - regardless of how often they are programmed.

Hey, what is this?

If I wanted ITEA snobbery I know where to go.

Some of us never play anything approaching 20 minutes!

Three Valves wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:29 pm

bloke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:37 pm
Yes, but I'm asking which really big works - that take 20 minutes or twice that long to play - do NOT become tiring - regardless of how often they are programmed.

Hey, what is this?

If I wanted ITEA snobbery I know where to go.

Some of us never play anything approaching 20 minutes!

Yeah you do...various suites, 'Victory at Sea", a good bit more than that of which you're aware...

I NEVER get tired of either of the Holst suites, F or Eb. To play or to just listen to.

Total objectivity is probably impossible, because it is going to depend so much on who you were, where you were, what you were doing in your life, when you first heard or played a particular piece.

I won't bore you with my backstory. But for me, one of the standout examples in my experience is Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5.

The two pieces we get the most requests for are both Rimsky-Korsakov works:

Capriccio Espagnol
Russian Easter Overture

I am taking into account audience feedback over the past 30 years. (Yeah, I'm on that committee, amongst others.)

Also, the Main Title from "Star Wars" never gets old with audiences. Everyone loves it.

I am NOT taking into account my own wishes or tastes, only that which has generated interest that converts into actual $$$$ for the organization…

I must have been playing an abridged version….

If I’m handed anything over two pages I let out an audible eye-roll!

bloke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:58 pm Dvorak 9 is programmed too often, becomes tedious, and this is not only because we have so little to do and so much sitting to do.

Even though Brahms Requiem seems to be programmed at least once every other year by some church or some local orchestra or both, it's really difficult to tire of it.

What are some major works which rate up there with the Brahms?

Bach's b minor Mass; Gounod's St Cecilia Mass; Mahler's #1, #2, and 5; Bruckner's #4 and #7; Poulenc's Gloria; Haydn's Creation; Sibelius' #1, #2, and #5; Beethoven's Christ on Mount of Olive's.

So many more.

Ace

Anything Shostakovich! 5, 7, and 9 are my personal favorites.

Anything with Mahler or Bruckner or Copland in the name is ok with me. Most of that stuff gives me chills every time I hear or play it. Carmina Burana hasn't gotten old yet, although I have to say I like the choral parts better than the orchestra parts. Bartok Concerto for Orchestra and Miraculous Mandarin don't come up much, but I'm not sick of those yet either.

Bolero would be better if it were just the trombone solo part, but you have to listen to all those other instruments. Ugh. The ensemble stuff at the end is pretty good, but forget the rest.

In our bands, I'm always happy playing Lincolnshire Posey, yes the Holst Suites, overture to The Cowboys, Jupiter, La Mancha, any Mancini, 1941, most any major Alfred Reed, Chant and Jubilo, and marches, especially circus marches.
Today's concert was a good one, with both Jupiter and Incantation and Dance.
Tim

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I see the Holst suites, and maybe I missed the Planets (I see Jupiter above…), but that’s one that I think has a good mix of contemporary appeal (thanks to a lot of “borrowing” from current composers) as well as decent parts across the orchestra.

Shostakovich 5, Prokofiev 5, Vaughan Williams 2 (and 6), Poulenc Gloria, Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique, Beethoven 3 (and 7) (no tuba, of course), Bruckner 7 (though only if the brass stays under control), Vaughan Williams Tallis Fantasia (no brass, of course).

That's just a start. These are the tunes in my iphone library that I will not skip because I'm tired of them when listening on airplane flights. I never get to play them, of course. No band work that has ever appeared on my stand plays as long as 20 minutes. (Some seem that long, but that's not the point of this thread.)

Rick "whose flying experience has been transformed by good noise-canceling headphones and a substantial personal library" Denney

MN_TimTuba wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:31 pm ...and marches, especially circus marches.

+1 for Beethoven 7.

Most of the orchestral stuff I like to listen to doesn't necessary feature a ton of brass or tuba. And I haven't played in an orchestra since college, but Symphonie Fantastique was a ton of fun. Also: Berlioz's Requiem. What a huge morass of moving parts. Carmina Burana is fun, but I don't think it's a play-again-and-again type thing.

In the band realm: every program should have at least one (1) piece by Sousa, Karl King, Holst, RVW, Grainger, or Alfred Reed.

Alfred Reed was 23 when he wrote Russian Christmas Music.