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...but I suspect the larger-bore/better-made/also-free-shipping/way-less-expensive/similar-looking JP version might be better-liked by quite a few...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304261283394

vs.

https://www.jpmusicalinstruments.com/pr ... p179b-tuba for $XXXX less.

These are NOT the same, and are NOT made at the same place.

Oh, but --
"People want this. 19 people are watching this."

However, on the bay are both a used Firebird and a used Starlight. The world is waking up again and things are starting to appear.