Hello I want to buy tornister tuba in BBb. I want to use it in small dixi trio. Tuba, guitar, clarinet. I'm looking more for the old one cerveny, stowasser...then the wessex. Is here somebody with some information about it?
Recently I have borrowed old Stowasser and this small one plays amazingly good. I also tried the one old lidl and I have to say it's not play so good like the Stowasser.
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:33 am
by Three Valves
If you wind up with the Wessex, I think the jazz version with the recording bell is MUCH nicer sounding provided you plan on ever playing it un-mic'd.
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:45 pm
by humBell
I wouldn't mind trying a tornister either.
Recording bell of Wessex also was recommended in my earshot.
So... Bump?
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:57 pm
by PlayTheTuba
I've played the Wessex when it was brought to the Army Conference. I too desire one. But I am currently not in market to buy one. BUT a company in Europe called MTP also imports the same horn that Wessex does. I believe MTP replaces the valves with German made ones? Or at least that is what their "About us" page says. Although, assuming you live in the US, the Wessex is probably easier to order than figuring out US Customs seeing as the Tornister tuba is obviously more than 800 dollars in value.
For any of you that try or buy a tornister, let me share something
The first time I tried one when they first came available, I thought they were junk, played terrible. The next time, I picked one up, it was a really nice experience. Now it's possible that the instrument quality was different, but one thing I know was different was the size of the mouthpiece I was using.
The first time I was using a BBb mouthpiece, the next time I was using a much smaller F tuba mouthpiece. Your mileage may vary.
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:33 am
by LeMark
PlayTheTuba wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:57 pm
I've played the Wessex when it was brought to the Army Conference. I too desire one. But I am currently not in market to buy one. BUT a company in Europe called MTP also imports the same horn that Wessex does. I believe MTP replaces the valves with German made ones? Or at least that is what their "About us" page says. Although, assuming you live in the US, the Wessex is probably easier to order than figuring out US Customs seeing as the Tornister tuba is obviously more than 800 dollars in value.
That company looks very intriguing, they offer some items in their catalog that I havant seen before. The link you gave for the tornister does not mention or show anything about a valve replacement though. In their catalog they only mention on model of tuba that includes those valves
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:33 am
by PlayTheTuba
...@LeMark are correct, the Tornister tuba probably doesn't mention having the German made valves.
I think I put two and two together because it's easier for my brain to remember MTP's existence. Seeing as they don't have any presence in North America, as far as I know.
This might be an example of "correlation does not imply causation"
I found MTP by searching through the Internet to see if any other company makes new Tornister tubas.
The about us page mentioning that they use German made valves on some of their instruments is what I find the most interesting.
German
Tornistertuba in B
• 4 – ventilige Zylindermaschine
• konische Bohrung 15 – 16 mm
• Druckwerk mit Kreuzgelenk / Unibal
• Schallstückdurchmesser 25 cm
• Mundrohr und Stimmbogen aus korrosions-
beständigem Goldmessing
• Innen- und Außenzüge in Neusilber
• Gesamthöhe 62 cm
Lieferbar auch als Bellfront – Modell
ebenso Lieferbar in F-, C- und H-Stimmung
English
Bb Pocket Tuba
• 4 rotary valves
• Graduated bore: 15 – 16 mm (0,590“ - 0,63“)
• Rotary valve mechanism with cross
linkages / unibal
• Bell diameter 25 cm (9,84“)
• Corrosion safe gold brass leadpipe and main
tuning slide bow
• Inner- and outer slides in Nickel Silver
• Height: 62 cm (24,41“)
Also available with bell front and available in
F-, C- and H- flat
Not sure what H Flat is but that is in the pdf.
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:46 pm
by PlayTheTuba
Ohh I feel I've heard or been to HSM's website a long time ago. Didn't realize they expanded their portfolio. Assuming my memory is correct. Thank you @rodgeman for sharing!
Re: Tornister tuba BBb
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:55 am
by humBell
rodgeman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:15 pm
Not sure what H Flat is but that is in the pdf.
Interesting...
So i know a little about H, although i am far enough removed from the actual context there is a strong danger that in trying to make sense of it i'll probably make something up.
H is B natural for people who call B flat B. And so this is confusing to me, because i wouldn't think they'd call the note H flat instead of B.
And while i think i had heard of this outside GEB (the Eternal Golden Braid), it features somewhat in there because one of the themes Bach used in a particular piece was Bb-A-C-Bnat, or in the other nomenclature: B-A-C-H. And that book is all about cool loops, so Bach using his own name in his music is well, food for thought.
Anyway, i assume this was too long winded to be useful.
Back to tornesters...
