Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:53 pm
...I would wager that fewer of us (in the USA) knew that they refer to a quarter note as a "crotchet".
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Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:14 pm
Good thing the rest of us are safely on the metric system now.
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:48 pm
There was an opposing school of notation put forth by Prosdocimus de Beldemandis* which called a quarter note a greater semiminim and an eighth note a lesser semiminim. I, for one, don’t worry about playing all this fast nonsense. I stand with Thomas de Walshingham who said, around 1440, 'of late a New character has been introduced, called a Crotchet, which would be of no use, would musicians remember that beyond the minim no subdivision ought to be made.'
*I remember Peter Schickele mentioning Prosdocimus de Beldemandis on one of his records. At the time I thought he had made up the name and thought it was pretty funny. Imagine my surprise when taking a music history course a year later and finding out he was real.
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:51 pm
I can deal with the quaver,crotchet, and minim. Even the occasional demisemiquaver isn't enough to ruffle my feathers. It is the whole note being called the semi breve that makes American me go WTF.
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:38 pm
The "breve" is the one with lines on the left and right sides of a whole note (ie. dbl, whole note...ie. "like the measures at the end of the Saint-Saens 'Organ' Symphony", yes?
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:19 pm
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:27 pm
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Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:19 pm
I think I’m feeling a quaver in my crotchet right now.
Hope nothing is on TV tonight…
Hope nothing is on TV tonight…
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:17 am
If there were you might be semihemidemisemiquavering! 
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:00 am
Rochut 3 ?windshieldbug wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:17 am If there were you might be semihemidemisemiquavering!
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:23 pm
If it lasts more than 4 hours, see a doctor...Three Valves wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:19 pm I think I’m feeling a quaver in my crotchet right now.
Hope nothing is on TV tonight…
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:35 pm
I would, but she ain’t that good looking.travisd wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:23 pmIf it lasts more than 4 hours, see a doctor...Three Valves wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:19 pm I think I’m feeling a quaver in my crotchet right now.
Hope nothing is on TV tonight…
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:54 pm
Americans often don’t have the highest reputation for intelligence in commonwealth countries. I think part of this stems from the bastardisation of the English language. It’s amusing to us how many words have been changed to be more self descriptive or have had their spellings simplified in American English. Case in point here!
No offence intended! Just poking a bit of fun
No offence intended! Just poking a bit of fun
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:32 am
In (semi) defence, surely you can't have double whole?? Whole is, well, whole? and a 1/128th?? Get a grip!
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:56 am
Thanks for that translation chart a few posts above.
Imagine somebody trying to dictate a more complicated, heavily subdivided rhythm in that terminology...
Imagine somebody trying to dictate a more complicated, heavily subdivided rhythm in that terminology...
Re: Most of us know that British call an eighth note a "quaver", but...
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:43 pm
Very glad to know Peter Schikele was real.MikeS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:48 pmThere was an opposing school of notation put forth by Prosdocimus de Beldemandis* which called a quarter note a greater semiminim and an eighth note a lesser semiminim. I, for one, don’t worry about playing all this fast nonsense. I stand with Thomas de Walshingham who said, around 1440, 'of late a New character has been introduced, called a Crotchet, which would be of no use, would musicians remember that beyond the minim no subdivision ought to be made.'
*I remember Peter Schickele mentioning Prosdocimus de Beldemandis on one of his records. At the time I thought he had made up the name and thought it was pretty funny. Imagine my surprise when taking a music history course a year later and finding out he was real.