WTB Alexander 163 C (FOUND!)
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WTB Alexander 163 C (FOUND!)
If you have a 163 C that you would like to sell, please let me know. I would prefer an older one, but will consider a newer one.
Last edited by Stryk on Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Theres one on Tubenet if you are interested, its a 163 5 valve CC tuba. The 5th valve was added post production. Comes with a brand new pro-tec gig bag. It costs $5500
Link to pics:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6gxdayNpc2MekEyz5
Link to the post:
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=98717
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Link to pics:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6gxdayNpc2MekEyz5
Link to the post:
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=98717
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
163 or 164?
There's a 163 for sale on TN:
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=98717
Edit: Great minds think alike!
There's a 163 for sale on TN:
http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=98717
Edit: Great minds think alike!
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Who is selling it? I'm no longer a tubenet member, so I can't contact them.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Typo - 163
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Oh, that beautiful baby is so beat up! I wish I had the filthy lucre so I could run it through my shop. I miss my 1958 163 CC!!!!!
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
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I'd guess that the upper bow cap extension indicates a hole or a very thin area where - over the years - someone's hand (pumping that 1st slide constantly) wore down the sheet metal in the upper bow.
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Yeah. I wish I had the lucre to run it through your shop, too, just to see what all the fuss is about.the elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:02 pm Oh, that beautiful baby is so beat up! I wish I had the filthy lucre so I could run it through my shop. I miss my 1958 163 CC!!!!!
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This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
HAHAHA!!!jtm wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:38 pmYeah. I wish I had the lucre to run it through your shop, too, just to see what all the fuss is about.the elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:02 pm Oh, that beautiful baby is so beat up! I wish I had the filthy lucre so I could run it through my shop. I miss my 1958 163 CC!!!!!
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Not sure if it's the same horn...
But I remember hearing of someone who bought an old Alex 163, got it home, and put his hand on the top bow just to find that it was super thin, and formed a hole just as Joe said...
Is that better or worse than buying a tuba with an MTS kicker?
But I remember hearing of someone who bought an old Alex 163, got it home, and put his hand on the top bow just to find that it was super thin, and formed a hole just as Joe said...
Is that better or worse than buying a tuba with an MTS kicker?
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
I actually thing the MTS kicker is an easy way of controlling pitch - no other slides have to move. That being said, it puts a BIG question mark in my mind when I see one. Those funky bow braces are there for a reason, and may (or may not) be a good fix for the problem - again, a BIG question. If it were a couple grand cheaper, I would take the chance - I have seen what folks like Dan Schultz, and i'm sure Bloke, can do making patches for problems like that. I have a wonderful Alex 163 already that gives me the sound I have been chasing for my entire life, but it is a BBb, and I am not very fluent in BBb. I have a good vintage 186 C that plays well in tune with a smaller mouthpiece (epiphany there), but does not give me that sound. I am in good shape for instruments, but would like to find a good 163 C for no other reason than I want one.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
"I am not very fluent in B-flat..."
COME-ON, MAN !
You played it in junior high, high school, and kolij marchin' ban' for NINE YEARS, yes?
...or no?
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
I played tuba 3 years in high school and sousaphone 2 years in marching band, but I did teach BBb fingerings for 40+ years. Unless the right Alex C just falls into my lap, I will likely just do what I did today - spend time practicing on the BBb. I can do OK with band music, but was doing some Canadian Brass stuff today and sounded like I majored in missing notes! But, I can play it a hell of a lot better than I can play an F tuba!
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
Terry, we will keep our eyes out for you.
Alex 163's seem to come in waves. None for a while, then a bunch all at once. One of us will hear of something and let you know.
Alex 163's seem to come in waves. None for a while, then a bunch all at once. One of us will hear of something and let you know.
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
I don't do a good job of remember what people own...but I believe I remember that you own a Miraphone 186 C.
If you want a C tuba that plays fairly well in tune - but sounds like an Alex, you might consider buying an Alex bell for the Miraphone tuba (if one of the Alex bells fits a 186 bottom bow ?)...
A newer Alex (as they play almost as well in tune as Miraphones) would be fairly pricey, but (assuming - as I'm not - you're not a collector) you have a Miraphone 186 C and an Alex B-flat that could be sold to finance a later-vintage Alex C tuba.
I also don't remember which Alex model B-flat you own...but you might measure the circumference of the insertion point of the Alex bell...
If the Miraphone and Alex happen to be the same (??), you could swap your own bells, and find a replacement bell for your Alex at your leisure.
If you want a C tuba that plays fairly well in tune - but sounds like an Alex, you might consider buying an Alex bell for the Miraphone tuba (if one of the Alex bells fits a 186 bottom bow ?)...
A newer Alex (as they play almost as well in tune as Miraphones) would be fairly pricey, but (assuming - as I'm not - you're not a collector) you have a Miraphone 186 C and an Alex B-flat that could be sold to finance a later-vintage Alex C tuba.
I also don't remember which Alex model B-flat you own...but you might measure the circumference of the insertion point of the Alex bell...
If the Miraphone and Alex happen to be the same (??), you could swap your own bells, and find a replacement bell for your Alex at your leisure.
Re: WTB Alexander 163 C
I'm in love! lol Figured out the intonation, working on some physical issues. Replaced the springs, took out a lot of the dents, ordered some parts for the linkage - things like that.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
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Re: WTB Alexander 163 C (FOUND!)
So you are selling that pesky BBb now??
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TU422L with TU25
1964 Conn 36k with CB Arnold Jacobs
Accent (By B&S) 952R with Bach12
The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column