Complete List of Chuck Daellenbach's tubas?

Tubajug · Post by **Tubajug** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:25 pm

I've looked around and haven't been able to find a list of all the tubas Chuck has used with the Canadian Brass. Wanna help me out? These are in no particular order, so if anyone wants to complete the list and put it in order, that would be nice!

Rotary Yamaha (I don't remember the model number)
Getzen CB-50
Schilke
Yamaha YCB-621
Conn 3J (though not much nowadays correct?)

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity. Oh, and Merry Christmas Eve!

bort2.0 · Post by **bort2.0** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:55 pm

What is this one? Looks like a Yamaha, sort of... But sort of not...? Maybe it's just me!

the elephant · Post by **the elephant** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:04 pm

I am pretty sure he played a 186 back in 1977 for their China tour.

the elephant · Post by **the elephant** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:08 pm

Here are two other early horns, one being a smaller rotary, perhaps a Rudi Meinl? I do not think that horn is a Miraphone, but it could be a 184. He still used a CC with 5 valves at that time, though. You could see him working his way to the Schilke/Yamaha…

https://hpo.org/a-brief-history-of-cana ... d-the-hpo/

the elephant · Post by **the elephant** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:10 pm

Hmm… Perhaps it is a 185 or 184 CC. I can't really tell. I was wrong about it being a 186, though I have heard that he used on when he attended Eastman.

Post by **matt g** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:14 pm

I remember hearing the Mirafone was a 184. Been a while though...

I think he might used the YCB-661 for a short bit but not sure on that either.

Post by **matt g** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:15 pm

Also, wasn’t the Schilke horn just a Yamaha?

the elephant · Post by **the elephant** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:23 pm

I am pretty sure this is a rotary Yamaha he messed around with for a while. The two times I saw them live back in the middle 1980s he was using the gold-plated Schilke/Yamaha that was his go-to horn for many years.

When CB played with the MSO in 2002 he was still using one of those old horns. I know this because the gorillas at our airport trashed his bell. I had to pick it up at his hotel downtown and work on it all the next morning. We had one rehearsal with them at 10:00 a.m. and a concert that night, and the rest of the program was pretty heavy tuba stuff, so this sidetrack was an unneeded hunk of stress. (He told me that he used this older tuba whenever the airport was either a known tuba crusher or one they had no experience with.)

That horn was a little larger than the Yamaha 621, and it had a super-cool maple leaf-shaped bell-to-receiver brace and lots of other tiny custom touches.

York-aholic · Post by **York-aholic** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:55 pm

There was a book published about the Canadian Bras (

) quite a while ago. In it was a picture of the group where Mr. Daellenbach was playing a 4v (top action) York model 33.

The “bras” typo above is a reference to a bill board that a hotel or something put up for them and either ran out of S’s or one fell off the sign. There was a picture of it in the fore mentioned book.

bloke · Post by **bloke** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:35 pm

' enjoying this thread.
Merry Christmas.
bump.

Post by **matt g** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:41 pm

the elephant wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:23 pm

That indeed looks a lot like the YCB-661 from that fifth valve setup.

dp · Post by dp » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:36 pm

The tubas in these two photos look like two different horns to me

the elephant wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:10 pm Hmm… Perhaps it is a 185 or 184 CC. I can't really tell. I was wrong about it being a 186, though I have heard that he used on when he attended Eastman.

tofu · Post by **tofu** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:40 am

York-aholic · Post by **York-aholic** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:41 am

I found the Canadian Brass book with Chuck playing the York 33.

Sorry the pictures are sideways.

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York-aholic · Post by **York-aholic** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:45 am

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Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:07 pm

When they played with my band a few years ago, he was using a Yamaha YCB-621. (I believe the tuba included in the “matching gold-plated instruments custom-designed by Schilke” was a 621.) They were sponsored by Conn-Selmer at the time. The Yamaha had a big wrinkle down the bell. I told him that even though they were no longer sponsored by Yamaha, they’d probably iron out or replace that bell for him. He looked at me with a straight face and said “I ordered it this way from the factory.” I think that’s the instrument he takes for quick gigs in the category Wade describes as “run outs”.

When they played with us in San Antonio, which was maybe 1991 or so, they were sponsored by Yamaha and he was using a 621 then, too. I had my 621 F tuba at the master class and we compared them. The Getzen deal for CB-branded instruments was very soon after that.

When I saw them maybe four years ago at George Mason University, he was playing the tuba with the carbon-composite bell.

Rick “several data points” Denney

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:37 pm

Rick Denney wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:07 pm
When I saw them maybe four years ago at George Mason University, he was playing the tuba with the carbon-composite bell.

Rick “several data points” Denney

I was there too. The following year I saw them at Strathmore.

Bob Kolada · Post by **Bob Kolada** » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm

Art Linsner has, or at least had, Chuck's Thein contrabass trombone. I think Chuck played it on a blues number on an album.

Art told me he (Art) had it converted to Eb with a larger bell to keep up with the bass trombonist he was playing with. I have not seen it.

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