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Wessex Chicago:

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That must have been a painful moment.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164849588003?h ... Sw7kRgkazx


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Must be Spring.

Everyone selling selling tubas in bare feet again!! :eyes:
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Maybe you could get a lacquer replacement bell...?
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The guy's feedback is less than stellar as well.
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If your okay with less then ideal aesthetics, this might be a chance to get a york-o-phone for $4,000. :smilie7:
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Looks more like a Reynolds Wrap-O-Phone... :tuba:
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It just makes me cringe.

My Martin Mammoth’s bell was pretty screwed up in shipping*, but not like that.








*note to shippers, putting a small throw blanket into a cardboard box with a tuba does not constitute “packing a tuba”. :facepalm2:
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Well, for the sake of discussion...

Is it fixable?
If it's fixed, is it going to be fragile afterwards? (Or does annealing help with that?)
How much would it cost to fix?
How much would it cost to replace the bell altogether?

Starting at $4k, maybe it's not a horrible deal after all... Given that the rest of the tuba truly is in the advertised really good shape.
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PUT. SOME. @^#$%*. SHOES. ON.
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I talked to the seller, A airliner dropped it.
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bort2.0 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 10:48 pm Well, for the sake of discussion...

Is it fixable?
Or for the sake of discussion, why fix? I can't say I noticed any great difference after I got my whack-o-phone straightened out. Granted it wasn't quite this bad. I got it fixed it because it's a nice tuba that I've always lusted after, made in Italy. People buy Chinese tubas to save money, am I right?
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Were it not Jinbao, I might bid the opening bid at the end...if one one else did.

Otherwise, if anyone - who's ok with Jinbao - buys it - and wants me to fix the bell, I don't mind tackling it, but don't send it until we have you-take-notes discussion about how to pack the (removed-from-the-instrument) bell, so I won't have to charge a bunch of "handing" charges.

I'd charge more to buff off all that silver...
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bloke wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 11:01 am Were it not Jinbao, I might bid the opening bid at the end...if one one else did.
This got me thinking... In a couple years, when the sales of these plummet, I'm imaging JinBao will start to selling the "exclusive models" to some of the more questionable sellers (schiller) at a better price.
This has already happened to a couple models.
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I doubt if I would ever buy any brand new tuba with a silver plated finish, because - regardless of the manufacturer - there’s usually some poor alignment - to be found - which needs to be addressed.
Oddly, my first-batch-shipped-to-the-USA M-W model 5450 required no realigning of slides, but - well... - I bought it used, and with a lacquer finish.
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donn wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:55 am
bort2.0 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 10:48 pm Well, for the sake of discussion...

Is it fixable?
Or for the sake of discussion, why fix? I can't say I noticed any great difference after I got my whack-o-phone straightened out. Granted it wasn't quite this bad. I got it fixed it because it's a nice tuba that I've always lusted after, made in Italy. People buy Chinese tubas to save money, am I right?
Can it?

https://youtu.be/K500dI7IYAE
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Oberloh's video convinced me it COULD be fixed. From what I know about the properties of metal it might not be so bad in terms of sound impact once completed. Still, I think what I would do is get a new bell from Wessex, in raw brass. I'm fairly sure they can make that happen based on discussions I've had in the past, although the time frame would be longer for sure (took me 4 months to get a new set of pistons).
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The Big Ben wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 6:07 pm
donn wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:55 am
bort2.0 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 10:48 pm Well, for the sake of discussion...

Is it fixable?
Or for the sake of discussion, why fix? I can't say I noticed any great difference after I got my whack-o-phone straightened out. Granted it wasn't quite this bad. I got it fixed it because it's a nice tuba that I've always lusted after, made in Italy. People buy Chinese tubas to save money, am I right?
Can it?

https://youtu.be/K500dI7IYAE
At Oberloh's shop rates, it might be better to buy a new bell or some type of reasonable facsimile. In the comments he mentioned it took him 10 hours to fix that Hirsbrunner bell. In some situations for a pricey European horn this might be peace of mind.
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kingrob76 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:05 pm Oberloh's video convinced me it COULD be fixed. From what I know about the properties of metal it might not be so bad in terms of sound impact once completed. Still, I think what I would do is get a new bell from Wessex, in raw brass. I'm fairly sure they can make that happen based on discussions I've had in the past, although the time frame would be longer for sure (took me 4 months to get a new set of pistons).
Really? Whenever I've talked to wessex about getting parts I've always been shut down.
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Its a few hours east of me- roughly equidistant between halfway between Huntsville and Chattanooga.

The buyer could pick it up in-person, bring it to me, I could possibly repair it the same afternoon, and they could be on their way home with it.

If (??) the rim or rim wire is cracked, I'd probably create some "C-channel" out of some thinwall brass tubing, cover that spot, feather in the patch with a file/sandpaper, and buff it smooth.

There's TON of touristy stuff, all around there - both in Alabama and Tennessee.
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LargeTuba wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:48 am I talked to the seller, A airliner dropped it.
From what altitude? :laugh:
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