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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:04 pm
by bort2.0
Sousaswag wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:34 pm Wow, new car AND new tuba? Those are some good ideas, Bort :smilie8:

Seriously though, maybe a slightly smaller tuba is the way to go. I’m curious what you didn’t like about that Pt-6 you briefly owned. That would be my recommendation had you not already owned one!
Loved that PT6! Only sold it to get money for the downpayment for my house. Irony! :)

I'd sure like to hold another one for a while, it was really nice. But I haven't seen one before or since I sold it in my price range.

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:37 pm
by jtm
bort2.0 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:07 pm I can't picture myself doing all that nonsense when it's 10 below... Especially knowing that a 188 or 1291 would just slide right into the trunk, in my not cold garage.
The 188 is remarkably compact for sounding fairly big.

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:05 pm
by bort2.0
jtm wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:37 pm
bort2.0 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:07 pm I can't picture myself doing all that nonsense when it's 10 below... Especially knowing that a 188 or 1291 would just slide right into the trunk, in my not cold garage.
The 188 is remarkably compact for sounding fairly big.
Ergonomics of the 188 are just the best for me!

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:55 pm
by bloke
If you Section 8 your basement, you can probably generate enough revenue to make monthly payments on a brand new fatbastard. 🤠

There’s a nice bag - to put it in - for sale in Ohio, I hear

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:46 pm
by bort2.0
bloke wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:55 pm There’s a nice bag - to put it in - for sale in Ohio, I hear
Yeah, but would it fit „fetter Bastard“ heute?

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:53 am
by tofu
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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:02 am
by tofu
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:55 am
by dp
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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:31 am
by bloke
This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:32 am
by dp
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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:37 am
by bloke
...so you must have mis-taken my post as sarcasm...(??) 😐

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am
by bort2.0
How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?

I haven't seriously played a 186 in an ensemble before, but my play tests always make me think that I'm going to be pushing the edge too much.

Or is it the case where if I'm pushing the edge, it's more like the tuba saying "hey fool, they can hear you just fine, knock it off."

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:13 am
by Doc
bort2.0 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?

I haven't seriously played a 186 in an ensemble before, but my play tests always make me think that I'm going to be pushing the edge too much.

Or is it the case where if I'm pushing the edge, it's more like the tuba saying "hey fool, they can hear you just fine, knock it off."
Bill Rose never had any trouble with the Houston Symphony. He was always present and always heard.

You should play the blokespecial 186 sometime. It's pretty special.

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:34 pm
by Oedipoes
I think you would regret selling the Rudi for the volume of sound...
Yes, I pick up one of my Eb tubas quicker if I only want to play something at home, it's also less of a workout physically to play them.
I stopped playing Besson BBb in brass band because I was uncomfortable holding it to play, and it was a beast to drag around, the Eb version is much more enjoyable.
But I'm glad each time I can take the kaiser tuba into band rehearsal and shake the room on Fridays!

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:48 pm
by bisontuba
Old 186 CC tubas with the smaller bell (16.5) are great tubas...

.NOBODY regrets owning one...

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:20 pm
by UncleBeer
Ever honk on one of those? Of all the "mini-tubas", these are by far the best IMHO.

bloke wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:31 am This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:11 pm
by Mary Ann
What would bother me most about that thing would be the bell right next to my ear. You'd sound like you were playing FFFF all the time, and you'd have to wear an ear plug in that ear if you didn't want to do damage.

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:25 pm
by bloke
I might agree with you, but the problem is that they are priced like a non-mini tuba.

… to date, I have not been called for a mini tuba gig.
UncleBeer wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:20 pm Ever honk on one of those? Of all the "mini-tubas", these are by far the best IMHO.

bloke wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:31 am This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

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Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:20 pm
by matt g
bort2.0 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?
I owned a 186 BBb and a 188. I used the mouthpiece that came with the 186 when I got it, a C4. I eventually got a Bach 18, and the depth of sound improved with no loss of intonation accuracy. When I eventually landed on the 188, I used the Bach 18 and a Bach 7. Pitch was identical on both, but the 18 was the “solo/quintet” piece and the 7 was the “band/orchestra” piece. I’d probably employ a similar strategy now if I owned a 186 or a 188. I’d reckon that a 186 with a bigger volume mouthpiece would have decent depth of sound. It’s not that small of a tuba.