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Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:33 pm
by bort2.0
Just spent an afternoon with an E flat tuba and had a blast. Kind of curious what a modern version, bigger, and in good condition might be like. Anything for sale out there?

$3000 or less, 4+ valves, nothing Chinese

Thanks! :tuba:

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:10 am
by hrender
Not my horn, not <$3500, but noticed it and thought I would share.

https://reverb.com/item/27623552-miraph ... ve-eb-tuba

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Eb pricing is weird. 3v horns often go for pocket change, but put a fourth valve on one and the price can double or triple.

Thought: that 3v Martin Recording Eb would make a heck of a project horn.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:15 am
by bort2.0
Thanks Hal, and everyone else for the PM's!

I have a little Eb homework to do, I think... but there are a lot of really nice looking options in my price range.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:17 am
by hrender
Sorry, here's the link to the Martin. Not sure why the thing keeps being relisted.

https://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/msg/ ... 83089.html

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:30 am
by iiipopes
PM sent.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm
by hrender

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:48 pm
by York-aholic
hrender wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm Also, just noticed this one: https://www.baltimorebrasscompany.com/p ... -tuba.aspx

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THat one has been there for quite awhile.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:06 pm
by greenbean
I would think if this is your "everything horn," you are probably going to be less-than-happy unless you get either a 4v-compensating or 5v-non-compensating. Three or four non-compensating ain't going to cut it!

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:18 pm
by bort2.0
Aw man, I hadn't even thought about the compensating (or not) consideration. I do think this is still an option to explore, and THANK YOU to everyone who replied. I don't think I've written back to everyone yet...

But yes, it could potentially be a nice Eb to cover most of everything. Front action piston Eb's have usually been the ones that I like most... But those are more expensive, too.

I like the idea of a big F tuba as well for the same purpose, but outside of the Yamaha 822, I'm not sure what other big F tuba is out there and/or worth a damn.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:14 am
by Druzone
There’s a 5valve York Monster Eb at Baltimore Brass - a little north of your price range, but worth a look.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:12 pm
by Doc
bort2.0 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:18 pm Aw man, I hadn't even thought about the compensating (or not) consideration. I do think this is still an option to explore, and THANK YOU to everyone who replied. I don't think I've written back to everyone yet...

But yes, it could potentially be a nice Eb to cover most of everything. Front action piston Eb's have usually been the ones that I like most... But those are more expensive, too.

I like the idea of a big F tuba as well for the same purpose, but outside of the Yamaha 822, I'm not sure what other big F tuba is out there and/or worth a damn.
A big F tuba that plays easily (like an Eb) will most certainly be out of your budget. MW 2250 plays very easily (I'm definitely a fan), but it is not easily afforded. An 822 ain't exactly cheap either. The JP piston F is from "over there," and a new one is still out of your budget, so that's out. Finding a big, easy-playing F tuba that is manufactured in the West and is very affordable is highly unlikely.

Ok, how about Eb?
I REALLY like the Packer 377. If the Symphonie had not already been on my radar, I would have bought the 377 I tried. Damned near bought it anyway. A new one would be above your budget, but not out of sight. A used one would be closer to your budget. Yes, it also originates "over there" and despite being of excellent build quality, that leaves this one out (and it leaves out the fantastic Wessex Tubby Eb - I thought it was a total badass). Joe had a really nice 983 a while back, but it, like other nice front action Eb's, are usually not within your budget parameters.

So what is left?
- A York or some kind of monster conversion. You have to be patient and ready to pounce if a rare jewel comes along (if it's a jewel at all).

-A Kanstul Eb might be the ticket and close to affordable. Unfortunately, there aren't many of those around, and fewer that come up for sale. I'd definitely consider one.

-Yamaha makes a couple of Eb tubas that might be affordable and do what you need. The non-comp Eb is pretty easy to play, and not as expensive as the 981 copy.

- A 15" bell Imperial of proper vintage in not-worn-out shape would be an excellent choice - they are highly desirable among many players - and it would likely be within your budget. I missed my chance on a mint example sold by John Powell a while back. Someone with the dough pulled the trigger immediately, as they should have. If you find one, just be careful that it isn't worn out junk. @bloke and others are probably better to discuss this model than me. But they do come up for sale, and the good ones are... well... good ones.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:20 pm
by LeMark
Talk to @UncleBeer

He had a couple of Eb tubas in his store that might be just what you are looking for. I'm thinking of the BMB Eb or the Gnagey I played in this video (last two horns in this video)

Yes they are both made in China, but they seemed well built

https://youtu.be/t6tTNFxVEvM?t=333

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:51 pm
by bloke
“nothing Chinese” - in the original inquiry, pretty much disqualifies all replies thus far (which is an example of why I mostly try to avoid asking questions on forums or social media…

…so who’s got a Brazil or India made E-flat that they would strongly recommend to Mr. Brett?

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:58 pm
by LeMark
For a non Chinese Eb for less than 3k, you're looking at a Yamaha 321 (4 valves, non compensating) an older Besson compensating (wasn't there one for sale on this board recently?) or getting really lucky on a Frankentuba of something like that

Plenty of 3 valve horns out there. The king that @Mithosphere posted about a couple of weeks ago would be on top of my wish list

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:30 pm
by Mithosphere
The King Monster Eb at Mike Nye's shop in Tempe, AZ is in very good condition... but only three valves.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:56 pm
by LeMark
Yeah, but it's a great candidate to add a couple of valves to.

Re: Any Eb tubas for sale?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:38 pm
by MN_TimTuba
Brett,
Here's your Yamaha, Tuba Exchange shows 2 of them.
https://www.tubaexchange.com/collection ... eeb-tuba-1
Happy hunting!
Tim