Yes, but 4+1 and a yoink of a tuning slide.

5v will give it to you without a slide pull!

Or... 3+1 comp...

If I’m not mistaken, wouldn’t the 32K use the same valve section? The only difference it would have is heavier bracing to be a 32K, right? All of them (14K, 36K, 38K, 32K, and their 4/4 size helicons) all used the same basic valve section as far as I know… Maybe I’m totally wrong.

Old instruments are always worth fixing. Especially that one.

Working now… thanks!

This thread is about to get some updates...

Not a lot has gone on with this tuba for a while. Now, however, we have PROGRESS!

Here it is, body completely dent free and round, tacked together. It is as straight as this particular Holton 345 can POSSIBLY be. Just look at that bottom bow cap. So dent ...

Looks like a 14K. Any 3rd piston out of a 36K/14K/32K/38K would probably work.

I’ve always thought the bell shape on these was weird.

Also, just like Rudy tubas, it seems like most of these have incurred some degree of moderate to really bad bell damage. These and the 4/4 models.

I’ve never played a Kalison other than the 4/4. These have always intrigued me.

Yeah... I forgot Stencels are from overseas. Lucky us.

I'd suggest, if there's absolutely zero way you'll order from Cronkhite again, one of these things:

Consider the Miraphone 494 bag. It MAY fit the F, but will be tight around the bell.

Wait and find something used (good luck, unfortunately ...

Finally got around to posting these...

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The lever on mine - We bent it a little bit to try and make it more comfortable. It's just too short. The Baer thumb ring - it's ALMOST in the right place for me. Just not quite. FWIW... this was a $70 part when I purchased it. I'd ...

What's wrong with Cronkhite? They make the best bags available. Good luck finding something that'll fit better. I bought one for my 3200 F and it's been perfect. Just took a long time.

Kurath/Willson 3200 tubas are a weird size. Your problem will be, with stock bags, that it's too tall for most Eb ...

I believe this one was Mike Milnarik’s tuba years ago. I loved the look of the red buttons against the raw brass, so that’s where I decided on the combo.

I think it’s been for sale a few times since then. The newest owner must’ve just opted for consignment.

If I’m correct, this one has all the ...

Looks a LOT like mine! (It’s not!)

The 3450, 5450, and 6450 all use an updated, extended thumb lever compared to the 21xx series of tubas.

Not only that, but the rotor has been rotated to where the cap faces the front of the horn, rather than the side. On the 3450 and 6450, the rotor is moved to the other side of the main slide ...

How about a giant piece of cork? It wouldn’t work on mine due to the angle of the lever, but I’ve seen it done on some SLP models with success.

Go to Al’s, Pizzeria Uno if you can get in. Or go to Al’s twice. Maybe just go to Al’s.

Sorry. Love that place!!

I’d put those valves on the York if they’re in better shape…

If I owned that York, I wouldn’t have sold you my B&M C, and instead pulled those valves off of it and stuck them on the York, after lengthening slides and re-routing some stuff, of course.

That’s a lot to pay for one of those.

HOWEVER

If you get a good one, it can be a great choice. My closest friend owned one that was purchased by the President’s Own, with MAW valves and some other things done to it.

VERY nice playing tuba, very in tune, and a nice sound. I almost bought it twice ...

Did these have the very large leadpipes on them, ala 2155/2165, or are these more modest? If I recall, Sam Pilafian helped design this one, but didn't have a hand in the bigger two?

Those mods look great. Good to know other people also hate the original 5th valve design, and it's not just me being ...

32.6 is and has been my choice with your Solo and #0 shank on my F tuba.

32.6 is also my choice with your Imperial on Eb.

So… 32.6

Sounds like you’ve been taking notes from Blake and me posting about all the stuff we buy over the last few years :laugh:

Those 2145’s - Good horns! Fix that thumb ring and 5th lever placement and you’re in business!

It's been quite a while since I owned a 2165, so I don't really recall the ...