Conflicted about tuba choice

Tubas, euphoniums, mouthpieces, and anything music-related.
Forum rules
This section is for posts that are directly related to performance, performers, or equipment. Social issues are allowed, as long as they are directly related to those categories. If you see a post that you cannot respond to with respect and courtesy, we ask that you do not respond at all.
User avatar
bort2.0
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
Location: Minneapolis
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 999 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bort2.0 »

Sousaswag wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:34 pm Wow, new car AND new tuba? Those are some good ideas, Bort :smilie8:

Seriously though, maybe a slightly smaller tuba is the way to go. I’m curious what you didn’t like about that Pt-6 you briefly owned. That would be my recommendation had you not already owned one!
Loved that PT6! Only sold it to get money for the downpayment for my house. Irony! :)

I'd sure like to hold another one for a while, it was really nice. But I haven't seen one before or since I sold it in my price range.


User avatar
jtm
Posts: 1108
Joined: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:51 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Has thanked: 698 times
Been thanked: 209 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by jtm »

bort2.0 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:07 pm I can't picture myself doing all that nonsense when it's 10 below... Especially knowing that a 188 or 1291 would just slide right into the trunk, in my not cold garage.
The 188 is remarkably compact for sounding fairly big.
These users thanked the author jtm for the post:
kingrob76 (Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:05 pm)
John Morris
This practicing trick actually seems to be working!
playing some old German rotary tubas for free
User avatar
bort2.0
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
Location: Minneapolis
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 999 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bort2.0 »

jtm wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:37 pm
bort2.0 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:07 pm I can't picture myself doing all that nonsense when it's 10 below... Especially knowing that a 188 or 1291 would just slide right into the trunk, in my not cold garage.
The 188 is remarkably compact for sounding fairly big.
Ergonomics of the 188 are just the best for me!
These users thanked the author bort2.0 for the post:
York-aholic (Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:07 am)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19293
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3843 times
Been thanked: 4088 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bloke »

If you Section 8 your basement, you can probably generate enough revenue to make monthly payments on a brand new fatbastard. 🤠

There’s a nice bag - to put it in - for sale in Ohio, I hear
User avatar
bort2.0
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
Location: Minneapolis
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 999 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bort2.0 »

bloke wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:55 pm There’s a nice bag - to put it in - for sale in Ohio, I hear
Yeah, but would it fit „fetter Bastard“ heute?
tofu
Posts: 740
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:00 am
Location: Intergalactic Space
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 142 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by tofu »

.
Last edited by tofu on Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
tofu
Posts: 740
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:00 am
Location: Intergalactic Space
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 142 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by tofu »

.
Last edited by tofu on Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
dp
Posts: 270
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:28 am
Has thanked: 63 times
Been thanked: 133 times

...

Post by dp »

...
Last edited by dp on Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
pfft (yes, that's for you)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19293
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3843 times
Been thanked: 4088 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bloke »

This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

Image
dp
Posts: 270
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:28 am
Has thanked: 63 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by dp »

...
Last edited by dp on Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
These users thanked the author dp for the post:
bloke (Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:27 pm)
pfft (yes, that's for you)
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19293
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3843 times
Been thanked: 4088 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bloke »

...so you must have mis-taken my post as sarcasm...(??) 😐
User avatar
bort2.0
Posts: 5253
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am
Location: Minneapolis
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 999 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bort2.0 »

How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?

I haven't seriously played a 186 in an ensemble before, but my play tests always make me think that I'm going to be pushing the edge too much.

Or is it the case where if I'm pushing the edge, it's more like the tuba saying "hey fool, they can hear you just fine, knock it off."
User avatar
Doc
Posts: 2472
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:48 am
Location: Downtown Browntown
Has thanked: 846 times
Been thanked: 767 times
Contact:

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by Doc »

bort2.0 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?

I haven't seriously played a 186 in an ensemble before, but my play tests always make me think that I'm going to be pushing the edge too much.

Or is it the case where if I'm pushing the edge, it's more like the tuba saying "hey fool, they can hear you just fine, knock it off."
Bill Rose never had any trouble with the Houston Symphony. He was always present and always heard.

You should play the blokespecial 186 sometime. It's pretty special.
Welcome to Browntown!
Home of the Brown Note!
Oedipoes
Posts: 75
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:19 pm
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 31 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by Oedipoes »

I think you would regret selling the Rudi for the volume of sound...
Yes, I pick up one of my Eb tubas quicker if I only want to play something at home, it's also less of a workout physically to play them.
I stopped playing Besson BBb in brass band because I was uncomfortable holding it to play, and it was a beast to drag around, the Eb version is much more enjoyable.
But I'm glad each time I can take the kaiser tuba into band rehearsal and shake the room on Fridays!
These users thanked the author Oedipoes for the post (total 2):
Doc (Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:36 pm) • tofu (Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:59 pm)
User avatar
bisontuba
Posts: 938
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:08 am
Location: Bottom of Lake Erie
Has thanked: 148 times
Been thanked: 697 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bisontuba »

Old 186 CC tubas with the smaller bell (16.5) are great tubas...

.NOBODY regrets owning one...
These users thanked the author bisontuba for the post:
Doc (Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:26 pm)
User avatar
UncleBeer
Posts: 524
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:37 am
Has thanked: 64 times
Been thanked: 283 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by UncleBeer »

Ever honk on one of those? Of all the "mini-tubas", these are by far the best IMHO.

bloke wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:31 am This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

Image
User avatar
Mary Ann
Posts: 3029
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:24 am
Has thanked: 517 times
Been thanked: 598 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by Mary Ann »

What would bother me most about that thing would be the bell right next to my ear. You'd sound like you were playing FFFF all the time, and you'd have to wear an ear plug in that ear if you didn't want to do damage.
User avatar
bloke
Mid South Music
Posts: 19293
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:55 am
Location: western Tennessee - near Memphis
Has thanked: 3843 times
Been thanked: 4088 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by bloke »

I might agree with you, but the problem is that they are priced like a non-mini tuba.

… to date, I have not been called for a mini tuba gig.
UncleBeer wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:20 pm Ever honk on one of those? Of all the "mini-tubas", these are by far the best IMHO.

bloke wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:31 am This is pitched in C, so - you know: professional

Image
User avatar
matt g
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:37 am
Location: Southeastern New England
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 554 times

Re: Conflicted about tuba choice

Post by matt g »

bort2.0 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am How does the output of an older 186 ("the good old ones") compare to a 188? Would it get "barky" more quickly, or be okay?
I owned a 186 BBb and a 188. I used the mouthpiece that came with the 186 when I got it, a C4. I eventually got a Bach 18, and the depth of sound improved with no loss of intonation accuracy. When I eventually landed on the 188, I used the Bach 18 and a Bach 7. Pitch was identical on both, but the 18 was the “solo/quintet” piece and the 7 was the “band/orchestra” piece. I’d probably employ a similar strategy now if I owned a 186 or a 188. I’d reckon that a 186 with a bigger volume mouthpiece would have decent depth of sound. It’s not that small of a tuba.
Dillon/Walters CC (sold)
Meinl-Weston 2165 (sold)
Post Reply