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I’m not interested in switching what I use to another lube product, but I thought this was interesting verbiage. I’ve never heard of this company.
An alternative to the current industry standards which use harmful petroleum, mineral and synthetic-based oils - not only are these damaging to our already fragile planet, but they are also unsafe for unsupervised use by children. Essentially, Edgware BY BBICO is a range of eco-friendly, British-designed and packaged musical instrument maintenance products, manufactured to use less packaging, produce less waste, and provide healthy alternatives to the products available on the market currently
Edgeware?
unsafe for unsupervised use by children
I just thought about all those years of using valve oil all by myself. Child abuse!
The best valve oil is free and comes in the cases of rental returns. These cases are also a solid source for free rolled up beginning band methods as well as random brushes, snakes, and unused slide grease.
MiBrassFS wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:23 pm
I just had someone use “all y’all” here. Made me smile a bit.
Leave the house!? Now that IS frightening. I went to Home Despot for epoxy. Almost got runned over… TWICE!
Was that you? I thought you looked a bit familiar the second time.
You missed me, but you did get that old lady with the walker who was giving you the finger. So, I think they’ll count that in your points total today. Did you get that walker out of your grill?
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Isn’t it that time of year for the pumpkin spice valve oil to come out?
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1964 Conn 36k with CB Arnold Jacobs
Accent (By B&S) 952R with Bach12
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British Band Instrument Company, never heard of them before and wonder what their business model is. https://bbico.com/
They might be fine - I don’t know - and they have been in business for a while, but if asked then I’d direct potential customers to someone like John Packer. It’s hard to see how valve oil is dangerous to either the individual or the planet. I’m inclined to think that some marketing guy is trying to exploit good natured folk, and that there are bigger hazards to be concerned about.
I have been using the BERP Bio-Oil.. Not because it is non-petroleum, eco-friendly, safer than humans or pets etc advertising reasons. I like it because they publish their viscosity data and their heavy stuff works really well on my old sousaphones with worn valves. It is thicker than anything else out there and stays put for a long time. I need much less of it than other products.
Just out of convenience I use their other weights for my other instruments. A member of an ensemble I play in is a dealer for them.. and he can just bring me oil to rehearsal for me when I am running low.
As amateur as they come...I know just enough to be dangerous.
Meinl-Weston 20
Holton Medium Eb 3+1
Holton Collegiate Sousas in Eb and BBb
40s York Bell Front Euphonium
Schiller Elite Euphonium
Blessing Artist Marching Baritone
Yamaha YSL-352 Trombone
gocsick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:59 am
I have been using the BERP Bio-Oil.. Not because it is non-petroleum, eco-friendly, safer than humans or pets etc advertising reasons. I like it because they publish their viscosity data and their heavy stuff works really well on my old sousaphones with worn valves. It is thicker than anything else out there and stays put for a long time. I need much less of it than other products.
Just out of convenience I use their other weights for my other instruments. A member of an ensemble I play in is a dealer for them.. and he can just bring me oil to rehearsal for me when I am running low.
I wanted to offer a word of caution. I used Berp Bio-Oil on my tubas back in, I wanna say, 2010 or 2011. I was home from college one summer and took a couple weeks off for vacation. When I came back, the Berp stuff had polymerized and had completely seized/gummed up my pistons. It was an absolute nightmare to clean out, and smelled so foul. It was like the oil went rancid (I believe at the time it was canola-based). I don't know if it was reacting with my previous valve oil, my body chemistry, or what, but I am neutral and generally don't have issues with green gunk or anything like that, so it was really surprising.
I hope they have reformulated that stuff since then!
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arpthark wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:27 am
I wanted to offer a word of caution. I used Berp Bio-Oil on my tubas back in, I wanna say, 2010 or 2011. I was home from college one summer and took a couple weeks off for vacation. When I came back, the Berp stuff had polymerized and had completely seized/gummed up my pistons. It was an absolute nightmare to clean out, and smelled so foul. It was like the oil went rancid (I believe at the time it was canola-based). I don't know if it was reacting with my previous valve oil, my body chemistry, or what, but I am neutral and generally don't have issues with green gunk or anything like that, so it was really surprising.
I hope they have reformulated that stuff since then!
Ditto. I gave up on the veg-based oils because of this.
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Yeah. Not that I'm adding anything here, but when vegetable oil is exposed to air, over time it goes rancid and polymerizes. The process is similar to how you get a sort varnish out of linseed oil, but cooking oil makes neither a good wood finish nor a good tuba lubricant. If you can get ahold of some bear fat, though ...
I've had good luck with it so far... fingers crossed.
I've been using it for a few months and have it in a trumpet, cornet, mellophone, American baritone, compensated euphonium, 2 sousaphpones, 1 marching contra, and 2 upright tubas. If it goes bad then I am screwed.
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As amateur as they come...I know just enough to be dangerous.
Meinl-Weston 20
Holton Medium Eb 3+1
Holton Collegiate Sousas in Eb and BBb
40s York Bell Front Euphonium
Schiller Elite Euphonium
Blessing Artist Marching Baritone
Yamaha YSL-352 Trombone
