Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
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Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Happy Tuba Tuesday. Today, the Museum features an Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950.
Serial #: 8740
Bell Diameter 18 1/8”, Bore Size .575”.
Comments:
“ESQUIRE” on bell. Some floral engraving around identification marks. “MADE IN ITALY” on valve 2.
https://simonettitubacollection.com/ins ... ousaphone/
Serial #: 8740
Bell Diameter 18 1/8”, Bore Size .575”.
Comments:
“ESQUIRE” on bell. Some floral engraving around identification marks. “MADE IN ITALY” on valve 2.
https://simonettitubacollection.com/ins ... ousaphone/
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
I've tooted on a Barcone model of these, and it is an interesting challenge to get the sound one is used to out of them. It's there somewhere!
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Is it a sousaphone or a sousaphone shaped baritone?
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Valve slides seem much too long to my eye. My money is on very small bore BBb. Hard to tell without a banana for scale...
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Compare and contrast with viewtopic.php?t=9983
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Courtesy of the Saxophone Museum. From a 4 pg 1927 Buescher baritone catalog….
34262_761_579 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129235491@N05/]
34262_761_579 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129235491@N05/]
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Yes, apologies, you all are definitely right -- I see it now, especially compared to the size of that mouthpiece! Very interesting and odd stuff (which, in my opinion, is the best kind of stuff).
edit: or not!?
edit: or not!?
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
When comparing the pictured sousa-whatever from the museum to the pictured Helicone Baritone in the ad,
The first valve circuit of the museum instrument is longer.
The 3rd valve circuit has a curly Q at the top. <-- this is usually a give away that a sousaphone is in BBb but given the small size of things, perhaps this is an Eb with the Curly Q employed to keep the tubing within the wrap.
Beats me. Its interesting though.
The first valve circuit of the museum instrument is longer.
The 3rd valve circuit has a curly Q at the top. <-- this is usually a give away that a sousaphone is in BBb but given the small size of things, perhaps this is an Eb with the Curly Q employed to keep the tubing within the wrap.
Beats me. Its interesting though.
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Oof, now you got me doubting again. I'm waffling!York-aholic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:53 am When comparing the pictured sousa-whatever from the museum to the pictured Helicone Baritone in the ad,
The first valve circuit of the museum instrument is longer.
The 3rd valve circuit has a curly Q at the top. <-- this is usually a give away that a sousaphone is in BBb but given the small size of things, perhaps this is an Eb with the Curly Q employed to keep the tubing within the wrap.
Beats me. Its interesting though.
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Time for a road trip Blake!
But given that it has a neck and a mouthpiece on it, I’m going to assume that the Tuba Museum will have given it a honk and since they have it labeled as Bb and that 3rd valve circuit is way too long for a Bb baritone, I’m going with it being a rinkity dinkity peashooter BBb sousaphone.
Cimbasso is wearable form?
But given that it has a neck and a mouthpiece on it, I’m going to assume that the Tuba Museum will have given it a honk and since they have it labeled as Bb and that 3rd valve circuit is way too long for a Bb baritone, I’m going with it being a rinkity dinkity peashooter BBb sousaphone.
Cimbasso is wearable form?
Some old Yorks, Martins, and perhaps a King rotary valved CC
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Re: Tuba Tuesday: Esquire, Miniature, B flat sousaphone, 3 piston, ca.1950
Well, there is no banana in this illustration either.bisontuba wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:16 am Courtesy of the Saxophone Museum. From a 4 pg 1927 Buescher baritone catalog….
34262_761_579 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129235491@N05/]
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